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BasedTunechi t1_j22mr7u wrote

why lie about something easily fact checkable


bkornblith t1_j22x46t wrote

He won didn’t he - and the odds are he probably will still get to be in congress for enough time to take a bunch of bribes.

That’s why. Because the system is rigged and it doesn’t pay to tell the truth.


san_serifs t1_j23vjlw wrote

Someone clearly bankrolled and installed this guy to gain House majority. They know GOP voters will hold their noses and pull the level for any Republican on the ticket. They really don't care what falsehoods come out of this guy's mouth.

Elections have consequences.


leg_day t1_j243fex wrote

And the New York Democrats did nothing. They lost the entire house because they sat on their hands.


CaptainObvious t1_j24jve8 wrote

False. The NY Supreme Court overruled the Democrats congressional map.


leg_day t1_j24lrcn wrote

Yes, they did not get the map they wanted.

But they still lost multiple districts that they didn't need to. A few of them by 1%.

Example: Brooklyn was flooded by Zeldin supporters. Trucks. Banners. Big ground game hustle at major subway stations. Even admitting Zeldin won't win, but pushing down ticket votes for every local position. Zeldin didn't win, but the NY Dems were nowhere.


CaptainObvious t1_j24nym1 wrote

I'm not saying the NY Democrats crushed it, but they did more than "nothing".


Topher1999 t1_j24mot9 wrote

Double false. The Court of Appeals did.


CaptainObvious t1_j24ntdi wrote

You are correct. I forgot the NY court names are backwards for some arcane reason.


ketzal7 t1_j26bt7w wrote

And now Hochul is going to appoint a conservative Dem to the Court of Appeals to replace the one that voted against the Dem congressional map. The NY Dems are a clown show.


IRequirePants t1_j25bqyn wrote

Because the Democrats violated the NYS constitution blatantly.


CaptainObvious t1_j25e47o wrote

I leave that conclusion to more legal minded folks.

Funny how that never seems to bother Republicans though and they get to use illegal maps every election.


IRequirePants t1_j25fctm wrote

> I leave that conclusion to more legal minded folks.

Even if you assume they didn't gerrymander it to shit, they very blatantly avoided the proper legal process of overriding the commissions map. And they knew it was unconstitutional, because they tried to amend the constitution with a new proposal, which failed. And then they just did it anyway.

"legal-minded folks" - they fucking lost in court.

>Funny how that never seems to bother Republicans though and they get to use illegal maps every election.

That failure is the courts in their respective states. NYS doesn't govern them.


CaptainObvious t1_j25n9tf wrote

Republicans in other states just ignored the courts and used illegal maps. NY Democrats did not.


IRequirePants t1_j262x9g wrote

> Republicans in other states just ignored the courts

No, they didn't. The courts basically ignored the laws and said "we will let you do this, for THIS election" as if that is some concession. I don't know why you are trying to be aggressively wrong.

>NY Democrats did not.

NY courts correctly shut them down. You are weirdly suggesting that somehow NY Dems were nobly fighting instead of being literal scum and violating a constitutional amendment that the majority of NY voted for.


U-N-C-L-E t1_j2477oe wrote

So your theory is Republicans from Nassau County would not vote for a Republican because of what a Democrat said?


leg_day t1_j24978q wrote

It's a flipped seat. NY Dems were barely present during the election. They sat on millions of unspent funds. They didn't even google George Santos, they could have obliterated him on election day -- not by getting Republicans to not vote for him (GOP voters vote for rapists and child molesters, a gay republican lying about his prep school is a nothingburger for them) -- but by getting the Democrat vote out to protect against such a fuckface from getting into office.

NY State had 4 flipped seats, all with poor voter turn out. Four flipped seats.

The GOP took 222 seats. 218 are needed for a majority. 222 - 218 = 4.

Three of them were within 1% margin.


TJ_McWeaksauce t1_j238s9s wrote

The fact that Trump made it all the way to the White House based on a "platform" of easy to disprove lies has emboldened Republicans to follow in his footsteps.


SNRatio t1_j24fmpi wrote

I'll go the opposite route from others in this thread: He didn't think he would win, he was just running to milk the process.

He was running in what was supposed to be a safe Dem district, and was considered a longshot until well into October. His plan was to win by losing: the campaign was a way to build his reputation, build his scam businesses, and harvest campaign donations for personal gain. He had no plan for what he would do if he actually won - he never even considered what would happen if he faced real scrutiny because so far in his life he has been able to just walk away from his misdeeds with no real punishment.

Plus he's a fabulist: he lives feeling that all of his lies are "his truth". Even jail time won't stop that, he'll just reboot with fresh lies.


north7 t1_j24hqga wrote

Yup, he ran The Producers gambit, and won.


shruglifeOG t1_j294c19 wrote

So do you think there's a chance he'll resign? Or will the temptation to further the grift win out?


Blue_water_dreams t1_j23ru0y wrote

Because republicans don’t care about character, they actually see it as a negative.


LittleKitty235 t1_j24d33v wrote

Because republicans with character like John Mccain occasionally screwed things up by having principles. I didn't always agree with McCain on policy, but he was respectable.


Rubberbabybuggybum t1_j24h1qo wrote


They don't want someone who's intelligent and independent.

They want someone who will vote for their policies. That's an insanely low bar.


im_not_bovvered t1_j242oc0 wrote

He won, didn't he? He banked on people not fact checking, and he was right.

We are all sitting here with our jaws on the floor but his scheme worked... he's been elected and no amount of hand wringing can undo it. He has two years to be ridiculous and then he can continue the grift with a book or tv deal, etc.

The GOP doesn't care. They'll excuse this away - some of them knew he was a complete liar before the election and just looked the other way. For a party with no morals, you can do whatever you want.


maffinina t1_j24k0j2 wrote

Yeah what a bizarre lie.

For one, tuition at Horace Mann is way more than $2,500 as he says according to the article. More like $40-50k back in 2008.

And did this actually score him any points? Would his constituents really care?


unicornmullet t1_j24yf03 wrote

Why did he say he lost employees in the Pulse Nightclub shooting, or that his mother survived 9/11?? None of it seems rational or well thought out. It seems that he lied pathologically to gain prestige and sympathy--constantly presenting himself as either someone who came from an elite background, or as a victim.


chargeorge t1_j22v64c wrote

I mean if you are running against democrats apparently there’s not much cost to it


Rubberbabybuggybum t1_j24gy50 wrote

Trump said he was the fittest president in history. Didn't stop him.

The GOP doesn't care about facts. They care about power.


randompittuser t1_j24za4i wrote

Because most people don’t understand that the risk-reward for such a thing is generally in your favor. It’s not illegal to lie in most cases.


sujihiki t1_j24ea5g wrote

He won. Dgaf.

Basically if you can scam your way in to being supported by the gop. You’re good to go with gop voters. They don’t care if you’re lying.


Algoresball t1_j24h92a wrote

He bet that no one would fact check him and unfortunately he was correct


KindaNormalHuman t1_j25klk8 wrote

Republicans don't fact check.


NiemandDaar t1_j27243b wrote

No, apparently the Republican leadership knew this guy was full of it but were fine with that.


_awacz_ t1_j25ea1p wrote

Because anything is better than the 'evil pedophile libs'. We've seen it from Roy Moore to Herschel Walker. The hate machine on the right is so powerful, anything is better than a Dem.

That being said, fun fact: even if he's convicted of a crime, he doesn't have to resign, nor imo will he. His lies will just be defended and those lies will metastasize as truth once repeated enough times, like as typical from Trump.


n3wb33Farm3r t1_j249hz6 wrote

No one checked, I guess that's why. B4 the election. Lazy work by the democrats.


carbonara_and_jazz t1_j24kafe wrote

That's not correct and people should stop repeating this falsehood. Opposition research uncovered a lot of the lies and the Democratic candidate was yelling about them repeatedly. Nobody was paying attention. People love to blame politicians and the media while simultaneously letting themselves off the hook.


SanguShellz t1_j24y2sw wrote

The narrative of the Dems being weak is more important than the truth apparently.


carbonara_and_jazz t1_j24yw4d wrote

Yeah, everybody likes to consider themselves as independent thinkers, but when something goes wrong, its everybody else's fault.

Stop watching right-wing news channels, ignore the NY Post, support responsible media and don't vote for conservatives. There's no guarantee there'll never be another George Santos, but it makes it way less likely.


BombardierIsTrash t1_j2524le wrote

Lmao the oppo research people sent their findings to the media and they couldn’t be bothered to report it. Some asshole form the NYT even had the gall to tweet that he was sent the lede but didn’t even read it because the report was a couple of pages and that someone should have just distilled it down to a tweet for him.


Rpanich t1_j231gqm wrote

We’re about to find out he didn’t graduate middle school next


calvinbsf t1_j23vq2f wrote

Lied about his U9 soccer team finishing in 2nd place in their league too


Colavs9601 t1_j24d0op wrote

Well they were tied for second, but listed as 3rd due to goal differential.


CydeWeys t1_j24hwjm wrote

Sounds like they placed third then based on the tiebreaker. A lotta teams in this World Cup didn't make it out of the group stage for the same reason: goal differential.


anonyuser415 t1_j24zj7p wrote

Besides, Biden's been lying about his lacrosse performance for 40 years


pr1ncejeffie t1_j241zj1 wrote

LOL where are the birthers at? This one should be an easier win for y'all. I want to see birth certificates, middle school grades, HS photos, etc.


IIAOPSW t1_j24lkvr wrote

There is no George Santos. He's a collective delusion, known to manifest in the body politic of all sorts of disparate civilizations throughout history. His presence portends plague, war and famine.


PM-Nice-Thoughts t1_j2536ow wrote

You don't need to be born in the US to serve in the House


woodcider t1_j27i071 wrote

But you do need to be a citizen and now that is even in question.


reignnyday t1_j2324kx wrote

Is his name even George Santos at this point? /s


Squeaks_Scholari t1_j24i6f9 wrote

His next statement will read something like this, “I only lied about by name because as a black woman in America it’s very hard to get ahead, so I started calling myself George.”


backfist1 t1_j22lls8 wrote

this guy, the hits/lies keep coming.


deepmindfulness t1_j245exr wrote

He lied about his mom dying in 9/11. Nice!


LittleKitty235 t1_j24dnht wrote

That is a new one! I'm guessing it is something like she died on 9/11/2018 and he just "misspoke"


deepmindfulness t1_j24feux wrote

No, that would be reasonable. He said he lost his mom on 9/11 and then in 2018 said he lost his mom five years ago. Both were on Twitter.


BenBishopsButt t1_j24xcwn wrote

He also said she was in the Twin Towers and survived 9/11.


deepmindfulness t1_j24xpwb wrote

Dude, this guys mom is amazing. She should be in Congress, not him!


soyeahiknow t1_j2ba5lv wrote

Yep, said his mom worked at a high financial place. But records show that she was a house cleaner


Shinroukuro t1_j23kohu wrote

Can someone please list or link to a list of all of his verified lies? I’ve lost count.


Rubberbabybuggybum t1_j24h52w wrote

At this point it would probably be easier to list the things he said that were true.


MrNewVegas2077 t1_j236tby wrote

Who really is this guy? Is his actual name George Santos? Or is that another lie?


aguafiestas t1_j248mfb wrote

The fact that the entire Republican Party isn’t calling for him to resign is ridiculous and sad.


Furry_Thug t1_j24ucpi wrote

Why would they? The only thing they care about is power, and getting more of it.


LittleKitty235 t1_j24e9o9 wrote

If you called for this liar to resign where do you draw the line? Lying about taxes? Investments? How many children you have? Your affairs? Who is financially backing you?

Who would be left to run the country?


aguafiestas t1_j24euc5 wrote

I don’t know exactly where the line is, but I am 100% sure this guy is on the wrong side of it.


LittleKitty235 t1_j24fmum wrote

Agreed. I was really not sure if I should include a /s in my post. I was trying to be absurd and hyperbolic, but it also read as depressingly true when I was done. Sigh


aguafiestas t1_j24gzvw wrote

lol fair enough. With the current state of things, you never can tell.


pressedbread t1_j24zan8 wrote

>where do you draw the line? Lying about taxes? Investments?

Uhh. There definitely is a line and these are part of why you draw it: Its vital to know who the politician is in a financial relationship with.


LittleKitty235 t1_j25022u wrote

No, the line should be drawn well before that. You'd be fired from any other job for blatantly lying about qualifications. If we lived in a sane world Congress would expel him the second he is sworn in.


pressedbread t1_j250pw7 wrote

100% agree


LittleKitty235 t1_j251dzn wrote

I considered adding a /s tag to my original comment but I'm more amused things are so upside down that it is being taken with sincerity and downvoted.


pseudochef93 t1_j22p16d wrote

My guy lying more than his hero Agent Orange.


thiskillstheredditor t1_j2441tp wrote

I wonder how many of his voters were “doing their own research” on vaccines? Funny how people suddenly were Rhodes scholars but now are electing total frauds into office without any thought.


PKMKII t1_j24exdr wrote

This is what mindless “vote X no matter who” politics get you.


squeakycleaned t1_j246430 wrote

At this point I’m expecting an article to come out saying “George Santos has been confirmed dead for five years, so who is this guy?”


TonyClifton255 t1_j24bmm9 wrote

I think at this point that this guy has lied about literally everything in his background.

I would check his legal name, citizenship, whether he got the GED he claims, residency, etc. He's a congenital liar, not an "embellisher."


Use-Quirky t1_j243do0 wrote

Why is it that the “free thinkers” always fall for conmen?


Mizzy3030 t1_j251ow3 wrote

The benefit of 'doing your own research' is that you get to ignore and/or wish away any disconfirming evidence.


nim_opet t1_j247jia wrote

And yet in a few days this man will be sitting in the House and vote on everyone’s future. American politics is a joke


th3D4rkH0rs3 t1_j24dbjw wrote

So what do we know that's true about this guy? Besides all the lying?


johncester t1_j241xkp wrote

So he didn’t win the Spelling Bee?


The_Lone_Apple t1_j249wgd wrote

This clown is the epitome of a pathological liar. He lies about everything because he so hates his life that he needs to feed his ego with a fantasy story about how great he is. Sounds like someone named Trump.


PuzzleheadedWalrus71 t1_j24fpo8 wrote

Changes need to be made to the qualifications required to run for US Congress, the standards are too low for the job.


doctor_who7827 t1_j24lxc0 wrote

Is there anything about himself that he hasn’t lied about?


Fe1is-Domesticus t1_j24txyc wrote

Call me an optimist but I don't think he's keeping the seat. I think even the GQP will need to draw the line with this guy. Fabricating his whole identity, possibly including residence in the district he represents is a fuck you to the people who voted for him. To stand by him, they have to affirm they want to be represented by a fraud they don't actually know anything about (other than that he's wanted for crimes in Brazil). Kevin McCarthy is too much of a kissass dishrag to take a stance- but I hope and believe he will be pushed to.


jjd13001 t1_j259zq7 wrote

Do they not do any background checks on candidates running for office? This is fucking absurd how much this guy lied about that


Ok-Hunt6574 t1_j26g2zr wrote

Can't Putin my finger on where his money came from.


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DigOne4211 t1_j241s7d wrote

Sorry, but is this man’s lies worse than WMDs. How about making it illegal, for all elected officials and individuals running for office, to lie.


mohanakas6 t1_j247pht wrote

Aw shit, here we go again🙄.


jeffsayno t1_j249gmn wrote

Dude is the American dream


jaytrade21 t1_j24bebb wrote

At this point, is there anything he said that wasn't a lie?


msv6221 t1_j24ctf7 wrote

Is his name even George Santos?


Hammondorgan t1_j24cu5i wrote

“My educational status is a fraud”- Kor Skeet


Sksayssomething t1_j24do89 wrote

Every day it’s something new. Meanwhile the clock is ticking until he is officially admitted/inducted (I don’t know the term for when someone gets seated in the House)


Algoresball t1_j24h64x wrote

At this point just assume everything he said is a lie


kita_dad t1_j24y9is wrote

what a total scumbag


70green t1_j263sfv wrote

This is the epitome of faking it till you make it. This is the lowest and saddest thing I've ever seen. Even sadder is he'll push this as far as he can because he has nothing else to live for. Embellishing is I ran a 4 minute mile when in reality you ran a 4.10 mile in a relay. Give me a fucking break. My uncle married a Jewish woman, does that make me Jew-Ish even though I am an adopted Filipino by Polish parents?!?!


Sundayx1 t1_j263ycd wrote

Meanwhile teenagers need to bring in multiple forms of ID for a driver permit test. Get this guy out of here.


MarketMan123 t1_j269g5n wrote

This one confuses me.

At a big bank there are thousands of people working there, so it’s pretty easy for everyone to say they just never crossed paths with him. Contrast that with HM, which has about 150 kids in each grade.

I went to a religious school with grades that small and I’m pretty sure I know the name and face of every kid in my grade (and if I’m unsure, 15 years later I still have a yearbook to look at!)

Maybe he figured nobody who actually went to HM would be caught dead living in a district like his?


Own_Decision_4063 t1_j26btna wrote

Everything out of his mouth is a lie and keeps building up with more fabrications each day. He must really be mentally deranged.


jordanmcarson t1_j26vqo1 wrote

This guy’s life story is like Forrest Gump. Except its all BS.


androgein1 t1_j27ayi4 wrote

This guy is taking "pathological liar" to another level. What a psycho.


biggreencat t1_j2ac4m5 wrote

now this is a step too far


thisismynewacct t1_j24eyex wrote

At this point, the news should be posting the actual truths since they’re rarer.


Leadhead87 t1_j25ln06 wrote

Omg a politician lied, the horror!


NetQuarterLatte t1_j23s57h wrote

Voters in the NY-3 district don’t have the right to remove him.

So even if they feel overwhelmingly deceived, they will be stuck with him for 2 years.


Traditional_Way1052 t1_j240vxo wrote

By which time they won't care and he'll be reelected. Almost Guaranteed.


kerbherbstreet t1_j243h5h wrote

You act like you know the district. It was leaning dem before this election and had Suozzi. This district also shows why gerrymandering is terrible. How are you going to have parts of queens, Nassau and Suffolk in one congressional district. George Santos also won cause long islanders bought the crime wave kool aid the New York post and Fox News were selling


Traditional_Way1052 t1_j243v09 wrote

Yes, you're right and I'm aware... I just have very little faith in people's ability to look beyond D or R these days. I think he'll have a record by then and he'll be able to stand on that. Or maybe he'll be a shit show in Congress, too. But I don't imagine the Rs primary him so I guess it's a question of whether they want a D or an R.


NetQuarterLatte t1_j248akf wrote

I don’t expect people to show at the polls just to vote for him.

His re-election will probably depend on the governor’s race to turn out GOP voters hoping they would just blindly vote for him as well… just like in the 2022 election.


Traditional_Way1052 t1_j24cdpl wrote

Sorry, maybe I'm wrong but isn't the next gov election in 2026? And isn't his on 2024? I thought Congress got two year terms. Although I could definitely be wrong.


n3wb33Farm3r t1_j249y5f wrote

The house can refuse to sit him. It won't happen but it is an option.


Jamie-Sees t1_j23zi5w wrote

….and how many lies has our glorious current president told in the last week alone? It’s part of being a politician! Not condoning it, just stating a fact!


Mizzy3030 t1_j252jh8 wrote

Cool. Now do all of Trump's, too. boTH SiDeS, right?


Kevinm2278 t1_j23nj8k wrote

News flash .. politicians lie.


iRedditAlreadyyy t1_j23oyzb wrote

Should that be acceptable though? Is it cool if cops lie? What about doctors who lie to their patients? Dude has voting power over legislation that impacts all of us and he gets to decide what’s best for us, as a liar.


Blue_water_dreams t1_j23s2n7 wrote

“Someone dropped a gun wrapper once, so why are you complaining about another person burning down your house?”


Bangkok_Dangeresque t1_j245xgk wrote

The adage about politicians lying is normally about unkept policy promises. Not that their entire lives and qualifications are fabricated.


Kevinm2278 t1_j250e09 wrote

I disagree.


Bangkok_Dangeresque t1_j25ihdj wrote

It must be exhausting to be THAT cynical


Kevinm2278 t1_j25mbfa wrote

Lol mustn’t know many politicians


Bangkok_Dangeresque t1_j25ozni wrote

How many can you name that have fully fabricated their educational and professional histories? Beyond the pale of the little white lies and embellishments that everyone, not just politicians, do?

What George Santos did isn't in the same galaxy as run of the mill "shrug, politicians be lyin'!" quips.


Johnnadawearsglasses t1_j22m9xp wrote

We get it. He lied about everything. Move on


Vegetable-Double t1_j22q56o wrote

Man is unfit to run a Wendy’s let alone become a congressman. Yet he’s about to be seated as a congressman in a week.


Johnnadawearsglasses t1_j22vb0v wrote

He will be removed