Submitted by WVOQuineMegaFan t3_znk6fx in nyc
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soundadvices t1_j0i39rd wrote
I hope you're feeling better now.
I grew up in East Asia. Masking when feeling sick or in cramped spaces during flu season was an effective common courtesy. And we all lived in higher density than NYC. This whole ordeal helped me accept that America just has much lower standards of hygiene and health education.
shamam t1_j0i5tfj wrote
And common courtesy.
Shreddersaurusrex t1_j0j7n11 wrote
But muh freedum
Where-is-J t1_j0i79ve wrote
Thanks, not 100% because these things linger for weeks but slowly getting there.
And yes, this is something I always appreciated when traveling to Asia/East Asia/Southeast Asia, the common courtesy of wearing a mask when sick or when it’s peak infection periods. Even working with those from Singapore, Thailand, S.Korea, Japan, etc in the office. They wore masks in the office when they have slight symptoms but not fully sick (that strange in-between period) so as not to affect others. I’ve always highly appreciated the gesture, so thoughtful!
AceContinuum t1_j0j0b60 wrote
>I constantly see so many people on the trains, public spaces just coughing and sneezing openly without covering their mouths+noses. You would think everyone learned a thing or two after almost 3yrs of a global pandemic but it seems some just either forgot or just don’t care.
Yes, it's ridiculous and it frankly really pisses me off. If you're coughing your lungs out, you should not be on transit, and if you "have" to be on transit for whatever personal justification you've made, the least you could do is wear a fracking mask and, if not, at least cover your coughs and sneezes!
But instead, I see so many jerks just sneezing and coughing their lungs out into the open air on trains and buses. Including well-dressed white-collar professionals who could almost certainly WFH.
Even aside from these jerks, it's crazy (to me) how few people mask up on transit. I don't care whether you believe in COVID conspiracy theories - why would you want to breathe in someone else's cold, flu, RSV germs?? Like do people actually enjoy getting sick, or are people actually so ignorant that they don't realize breathing in someone else's cough droplets is going to infect them?
AnacharsisIV t1_j0mxhcp wrote
Do you wanna pay my rent if I don't show up for work?
myassholealt t1_j0nbs72 wrote
>f you "have" to be on transit for whatever personal justification you've made, the least you could do is wear a fracking mask and, if not, at least cover your coughs and sneezes!
Do you lose your job if you do any of these too?
AnacharsisIV t1_j0nd5z4 wrote
I'm not on public transit because of a personal decision I made. I'm on oublic transit because of the cumulative decisions made by the people who created the American system of capitalism and wage slavery (in theory). Don't get mad at the pawns.
myassholealt t1_j0ndfgo wrote
Once again, since you ignored it in the original OP comment and in my comment, do you lose your job if you wear a mask and/or cover your nose and mouth when you cough or sneeze when on the train?
[deleted] t1_j0q5qws wrote
Did you miss the part about wearing a mask?
ejpusa t1_j0jzrvx wrote
>why would you want to breathe in someone else's cold, flu, RSV germs
That's how you develop immunity to these diseases, especially in a very densely populated area. No exposure, no immunity. Or else cities, with millions of residents coughing, sneezing, packed in like sardines, in un/ventilated spaces are not for certain people. You are here, you take your chances. You will be 100% exposed to an Omicron variant, 100% as long as you reside in NYC. Just have to accept that and deal with it.
For everyone I know, Omicron, a light flu for 1-3 days if that. I have zero Covid worries. I'm not ready to live in a bubble. I'll take my chances. My immune system rocks. I'm in the middle of almost 8 million people, it is what it is.
China is going to crumble. What living in a bubble will do to your immune system.
AceContinuum t1_j0k3g6j wrote
Humans do not develop lasting immunity to the viruses that cause the common cold, so, personally, I'd rather get the cold less frequently than more frequently.
But if you enjoy getting the cold as frequently as possible, by all means move closer to the next person you see sneezing and coughing their lungs out on the subway.
It is just totally weird to me that we now have folks arguing in favor of getting the cold. I remember it used to be no one was in favor of getting sick. Folks: you can believe whatever you want about COVID without coming out in favor of repeatedly catching the cold and the flu. You know better than that.
accidentalchai t1_j0jne9s wrote
I'm Asian American and wore a mask in indoor spaces while traveling around Europe this Fall and also still sometimes in NY...unfortunately, I've gotten people being nasty to me as a result. Not sure if they are extra nasty because I'm Asian and wearing one but after awhile, it gets annoying and exhausting so I've actually stopped wearing one because I don't want to deal with the hostility.
JellyfishConscious t1_j0l495q wrote
That’s really sad I’m sorry you had to deal with that.
Where-is-J t1_j0rn6sb wrote
Please don’t let that stop you from wearing a mask. Better safe than sorry I always say. Unfortunately lack of information still runs rampant. Earlier this year, I had to school someone who was berating my friend to take off their mask since Covid infection rates were down. Shut them right up when she learned my friend is undergoing chemo and is wearing a mask to protect her weak immune system. It was pretty satisfying.
Ok-Afternoon-5444 t1_j0l40pb wrote
I was in the grocery story last night and a woman was wearing a mask. She'd pull it down to wipe her nose with a tissue. Fine.
But then she started handling every. single. piece. of. fruit. They were all fine and buyable. It's like her illness mind controlled her to spread as much as possible.
Misommar1246 t1_j0lqdvv wrote
Same as you - vaccinated, boosted, still masked and I caught some type of flu that knocked me out BAD for a week. I had forgotten how bad it feels to get sick as I haven’t come down with anything for 3 years now until this virus around Thanksgiving. Still didn’t catch covid though so there’s that. I think wearing a mask protects me but it would be much more effective if people who feel sick wore one too, because there’s a lot of maskless folks hacking and coughing their lungs out on the trains.
Where-is-J t1_j0ro64z wrote
Completely agree. Never understood those who hack their lungs out or sneezing all over the place openly without at least covering their mouth and noses. ESPECIALLY after all that was learned from the pandemic. I mean, did these ppl forget all those scientific studies of how those droplets spread into the air and affect those nearby with vs without a mask? Did we not all watch the same videos and go through the same lessons?!? At the very least, use a tissue or cough/sneeze into something… anything other than open air that can affect others.
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[deleted] t1_j0q5ezy wrote
Did you get tested for the flu? I had my flu shot in early October then got sick the first weekend in November. Home tested for covid a couple times and got progressively worse (started as a dry cough) so went to the doctoe that Monday. Turned out to have the flu, strain A. It was pretty rough, sickest I've been in a while (worse for me than covid last winter).
Where-is-J t1_j0rmhsk wrote
Sorry to hear that, hope you’re feeling better. Yeah, the doctors did test and it was negative, same as Strep test. Got my flu shot too couple weeks before I got sick. I got sick right before Thanksgiving and it was rough since the worst of it lasted 2.5wks overall. I normally don’t get sick often (every 2-3yrs or so) and when I do it’s not great but this one was a strange since it was an unusually long time as I typically bounce back 5-7 days after the initial set of symptoms.
Lost_sidhe t1_j0il5n8 wrote
aah, that's your fallacy right there, "people" (as a collective) do not learn. A person can, but just look around for.. however long you've been alive... man, PEOPLE, don't learn.
thisismynewacct t1_j0iw2l6 wrote
[insert Men in Black quote]
Traditional_Way1052 t1_j0lqxoe wrote
Such a good quote
secretactorian t1_j0ia8k9 wrote
I don't think a viral infection can turn into a bacterial infection. It was likely bacterial to begin with.
burnbabyburnburrrn t1_j0iciz2 wrote
That’s not true. Your immune system gets worn down, your sinuses and plugged and damp. It becomes a bacteria breeding ground.
secretactorian t1_j0ih1cd wrote
Perhaps I misread, but I'm also encouraging using the right terminology. It's important, because otherwise people insist on antibiotics, they get over prescribed, and then resistance develops. I'm sure you already know this.
A viral infection can facilitate a secondary bacterial infection, and you can have concurrent infections. But saying a viral infection turned into a bacterial one can be problematic when we're trying to get the public to understand science and take care of themselves appropriately.
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Automation_Papi t1_j0hgy0h wrote
Dealt with a norovirus all week. Couldn’t eat or drink anything without vomiting it back up or it coming out the other end via diarrhea
superangry2 t1_j0hlm6a wrote
When you say out the other end, you don’t have to clarify it’s diarrhea.
Disco_Dreamz t1_j0izc4g wrote
Excuse me, speak for yourself. I need the diarrhea to be confirmed.
drpvn t1_j0hm41l wrote
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Flivver_King t1_j0i4x0o wrote
Norovirus broke out on the Empire State VI and there were people that were shitting themselves in their racks they had it so bad. Then the heads backed up and flooded the berthing space and people on the bottom rack had their mattresses get soaked with shitwater. It was a really shitty situation. I hope you’re better now, norovirus is fucking horrible.
Sk8ngWST t1_j0l203z wrote
No joke, but me and my 2 kids felt the same 2 weeks ago. It felt horrible tbh and i thought it was because i a ate like a pig on a wednesday night before going to bed. Nxt morning, my stomach wouldn't take anything so i fasted for like 36 hr straight before feeling little relieved.
toastedclown t1_j0hydxk wrote
>New Yorkers Are Sick of Being Sick.
Really? Too bad! Back to the boiler room! Chop chop!
Aby Rosen's new Maybach isn't gonna pay for itself...
sternfan1523 t1_j0i9qij wrote
this is such a simplistic way of looking at things. Vast majority of people want normalcy and the good & bad that comes with it.
toastedclown t1_j0icvih wrote
I mean, I think the vast majority of people would prefer not to be sick all the time. Especially in a country where they are lucky to get a handful of sick days.
People tolerated being crammed cheek-by-jowl into noisy, miserable open offices because they were told it was necessary and it couldn't be any other way. Once they saw with their own eyes this was not the case, I think they started to feel very differently about the trade-offs they were told to make.
BobanTheGiant t1_j0ib7lc wrote
lol
sternfan1523 t1_j0ii8vt wrote
look around...people are out and about, not wearing masks. Not because of capitalism, but because people want to be around people
toastedclown t1_j0itec4 wrote
People want to be around people when they are socializing. When people are at work, they want to work.
If people wanted to be wheezed on by hundreds of unmasked strangers every day, then their employers wouldn't be putting so much effort into strong-arming them back into the office.
sternfan1523 t1_j0itutm wrote
Very Reddit opinion. Issue is much more about commuting. It’s a fringe segment that gives a shit about being around unmasked people. Not at all mainstream.
dhb113 t1_j0l2h90 wrote
don’t listen to these people. you’re right. most people don’t wear masks (not half like this person is saying). all you need to do is walk around manhattan to see that.
sometimes i need to remind myself that only a mere fraction of people in the city have reddit. people in this sub/thread do not represent public opinion.
toastedclown t1_j0iuhgt wrote
>Issue is much more about commuting.
It's also about that, and also about contemporary offices being just plain miserable places to work.
>It’s a fringe segment that gives a shit about being around unmasked people. Not at all mainstream.
Nah, that's completely false. At least half the people I see in public indoor spaces are wearing masks.
sternfan1523 t1_j0ivx85 wrote
Half? Lol I see 20% on the train, bars are packed. Very difficult to get reservations, as it usually is this time of the year when things are normal. You see maybe 1/200 in places like this wearing a mask
BobanTheGiant t1_j0ko5d3 wrote
Tell us you’ve never taken a stats class or understand what n=1 without telling us!
BobanTheGiant t1_j0ko3d0 wrote
I know who here would let fellow man die so that you can go about your day “unbothered”
sternfan1523 t1_j0lon1r wrote
Yes, me and nearly everyone else in the city? Look around, almost nobody wears masks and bars and restaurants are packed and nobody is wearing them in either
Belikekermit t1_j0htpow wrote
Got the flu last week after avoiding the flu for over 20 years. Sucked. Got my covid booster yesterday, I do not want to get fucked by covid again.
analog_x700 t1_j0ibmwd wrote
Did you also get a flu shot? I haven’t gotten the flu since I was 12 and now I’m worried I’ll get it.
Belikekermit t1_j0iknsa wrote
No, I didn't. Next year I will.
ctindel t1_j0mm11n wrote
Of course you should get the shot every year. You can get it at the same time as the covid shot.
thisismynewacct t1_j0iwf6a wrote
I got the 2nd booster and flu shot together. The result was the same as the first booster and flu shot in one go from last winter: a 12 hour migraine the following day that no amount of sleep, fluids, and Advil/Tylenol could solve.
Still felt it was worth it vs getting Covid or Flu.
Jaded_Muffin4204 t1_j0jb7fy wrote
I got the flu within the two weeks after my flu/covid shots. I didn't get as sick as I think I would have and was on the mend after about 4 days. Terrible cough and headache though!
MamaDeloris t1_j0j6x92 wrote
Yeah? Well maybe New Yorkers should have kept the fucking mask on in the subways. Everything is packed to the point of basically dry humping again and maybe 10 to 20% of the car even bothers wearing a mask anymore.
BluuueXIII t1_j0nqwfm wrote
I don’t think a mask is going to save you in that kind of close proximity to people.
[deleted] t1_j0q6fi5 wrote
If everyone is wearing one of course it would cut down the spread considerably. The type of mask also makes a huge difference. I don't understand anyone that still is wearing cloth masks.
drpvn t1_j0hfc54 wrote
I got a wicked flu last week. I had no idea it was national news.
lupuscapabilis t1_j0jfvr2 wrote
Right? Can’t believe I’ve lived my life getting flus that laid me out for a week at a time, and I didn’t post it on Reddit.
drpvn t1_j0jzdaf wrote
Oh crap I just did
Caroline0330 t1_j0ixzl9 wrote
Yep. My partner and I are in that boat right now. Tested negative for COVID and flu this morning but feel absolutely terrible. Short of breath, nauseous, runny nose, fatigue, body aches.
[deleted] t1_j0q6i2x wrote
get tested for the flu
Caroline0330 t1_j0q7or8 wrote
It says in my comment that we tested negative for flu as well.
[deleted] t1_j0qc7f3 wrote
oh sorry, my eyes ran right over that, duh! feel better soon!
[deleted] t1_j0qchhr wrote
actually, was that a rapid test? mentioning because I had the flu in early November and I tested negative on rapid but then the regular test came back positive
Caroline0330 t1_j0qcu6e wrote
It was a rapid. But I'm leaning towards no on flu since I never ran a temperature.
[deleted] t1_j0qlnaq wrote
neither did I
Caroline0330 t1_j0qlvup wrote
Well, back to urgent care I go on the morning.
Germanicus-Giaus t1_j0j8fkc wrote
> My partner
Sorry to hear that your law firm is suffering from this illness
DLC1337 t1_j0jszou wrote
lmao you really got em
Towel4 t1_j0le5mj wrote
Population density is a mother fucker
Wowzlul t1_j0ml2tu wrote
Pack it in boys. Cities are too risky. Tear em down. Everyone to the burbs. Just order delivery.
briznastyz t1_j0lipfq wrote
Hiding from all forms of sickness for 2 years might have a role in that 🙄
Wowzlul t1_j0ml9ey wrote
The Times really has pretty much abdicated its role as a news organization and is now a party organ for fomenting elite hysterias.
WVOQuineMegaFan OP t1_j0mvvrp wrote
Not sure it's "hysteria." I'm not a lockdown cheerleader but it was notable to me how many people I knew who were (mostly mildly) sick and then I saw this article, seems like something that can reasonably be reported on to me.
Wowzlul t1_j0o7ihd wrote
Fair point. I'm way too paranoid because of the direction that the Times has been steering things lately, and of course there was the past two years.
But hey yeah there's a bunch of stuff going around right now.
cupcake_not_muffin t1_j0j5n5j wrote
Probably since COVID damages the immune system for at least 8 months after the acute infection.
theWora t1_j0l9vnv wrote
Just wear masks, and the likely hood ifbyou gettingbsick will decrease
derusso t1_j0iqov9 wrote
Tired of being sick ***
Testing123xyz t1_j0isbje wrote
So just like that monkey pox is gone?
SpiritualRub4685 t1_j0k51ny wrote
it’s not an election year so back to just getting colds like we used to without blowing it out of proportion
Mindless-Clothes-839 t1_j0jtgfm wrote
Do you all looks up to the sky? they have been chemtrail all the time!
fes57 t1_j0id6oo wrote
Uhhh people don’t give a shit about being sick. The ones that do where masks or don’t go out much during flu season…
1600hazenstreet t1_j0j0qqi wrote
We need another lockdown to stop the spread. /s
LikesBallsDeep t1_j0jci2u wrote
I mean I know you're saying that sarcastically, but even the fucking bare minimum of restrictions we had in say, late 2020 through fall 2021 seemed to work surprisingly well.
Nobody's asking for anything resembling a lockdown. Could ya'll just stop being so fucking gross for a bit and stay home if you're sick, maybe wear a mask in the subway?
No, fuck off, it isn't 'just allergies' in December.
brownredgreen t1_j0liplb wrote
I have literally seen these weird anti mask freaks say that people wearing masks on mass transit is "a lockdown"
They are living in their own reality.
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froggythefish t1_j0j2uf1 wrote
New yorkers are sick of being sick. But also sick of wearing masks. And sick of getting shots. And sick of staying home. And sick of lockdowns. New yorkers could easily eliminate 90% of Covid cases with a month long complete lockdown/general strike, but the new yorkers would all whine about not being able to get Starbucks or something, so we stay sick.
If you don’t want to get sick, stay home. How many times do people have to tell new yorkers this. If you don’t want to get sick, stay home.
Germanicus-Giaus t1_j0j8abe wrote
> with a month long complete lockdown/general strike,
Ehhh, my life is pretty comfortable. I think I'll keep living this way. Have fun on your strike or whatever though
froggythefish t1_j0j8ktv wrote
You don’t think staying home, skipping work, and chilling out for a month, is comfortable?
aaron_dos t1_j0j9otl wrote
how would we eat?
froggythefish t1_j0jaidj wrote
That’s a great question! There are a few answers. Firstly, we could make delivery workers exempt from said lockdown, or only allow people to leave to buy food. Secondly, we could have the government supply food, though of course the government fails to provide food even to the starving, so this is unlikely.
Third, and I think this is the best option, is a little known, quite futuristic technology known as “preservation”. Back in 1810, this neat little thing called “can food” was patented, where essentially, totally normal food is put in a metal container which is then sealed, and boiled to kill any viruses or bacteria. Then, when people need to eat, they open the can, and have perfectly edible food right there! It’s really neat. It’s so high tech, canned food from a ship wreck 100 years old, was still safe to eat!
aaron_dos t1_j0jbl0n wrote
Thanks for these well thought-out solutions! I especially enjoyed learning about canned foods and how these safety measures could be waived for the delivery drivers :)
Germanicus-Giaus t1_j0jap0k wrote
I like my job. I would prefer to keep making money and advancing my career. That spent years working to get into this position, I think I'll capitalize on it.
You can enjoy sitting at home, and eating cheetos though. I look forward to seeing your political posts about how life is unfair and you deserve more social benefits.
froggythefish t1_j0jb2hn wrote
I’m glad you like your job! Unfortunately, most people do not think having their labor stolen from them 5-7 days per week is the best way to spend their time. But I’m glad you’re an exception!
Life is unfair, but not for me. I live perfectly fine. I’d like some basic human rights, like the right to healthcare and food and housing and what not, but despite the US lacking these seemingly basic things, I’m okay, and quite comfortable. Many people however, are not as fortunate.
Edit: also I hate cheetos and I’m insulted by your assumption I enjoy them. They leave too much residue on your hands. Gross.
SequinSaturn t1_j0iur3h wrote
Maybe keep your city clean?
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Where-is-J t1_j0hpbvh wrote
I completely understand this. Got an upper respiratory virus few weeks ago, not Covid (tested negative multiple times), not RSV (due to lack of fever), but was awful as it turned into a bacterial infection requiring antibiotics. I’m up to date with all my Covid vaccinations and boosters alongside with my Flu shots and still wear my masks since I constantly see so many people on the trains, public spaces just coughing and sneezing openly without covering their mouths+noses. You would think everyone learned a thing or two after almost 3yrs of a global pandemic but it seems some just either forgot or just don’t care.