Submitted by Character_Mall_1966 t3_10ghuct in nyc
Comments
[deleted] t1_j54y3zp wrote
[deleted]
dancetothiscomment t1_j57exkw wrote
Massachussets, California also took a ton of time for the dispensaries to open up
MirthandMystery t1_j538a01 wrote
Unlicensed dealers shouldn’t be allowed to sell but real estate folks are looking the other way and renting them store space, while after they set up enforcement is too lax and/or understaffed to shut them down.
As far as a timeline, this is an entirely new industry, an epochal change and multiple factors have played a role in States hesitation setting up a legal system- partly due to banking rules, assessing grower quality and licensing, limits with Federal laws but primarily in NY has been how to implement it first by establishing legal licenses and deciding who gets them-while trying to be fair and equitable. Not easy and needs to be structured right so you don’t have to totally rewrite it later if things go haywire. Governing isn’t easy.
And it would’ve likely happened closer to mid 2020 were it not for a years set back due to the pandemic and time spent on lockdown. As is things have been rolled out incredibly fast, and like anything big and new, there will be delays and bumps along the way.
Remember how far we’ve come in just a year:
TwilitSky t1_j538i4q wrote
We have examples of other places where it was successfully implemented. It wouldn't be outside the realm of normalcy to simply copy the laws and licensing schemes and then make them our own.
MirthandMystery t1_j539h9f wrote
I’d agree copying a successful template may work for a dry start, that could be tweaked and adjusted after- if we were a smaller less complicated state but NYC and NY are legally the same, with very different legal dynamics and hurdles.
Definitely more complicated that anywhere else in that NYC alone is like a small country rather than just a city in NY.
TwilitSky t1_j53b9w2 wrote
It's true. We operate under very different rules and regulations than NYS so that must pose problems with the licensing scheme a bit.
SandwichesTheIguana t1_j55mx5c wrote
No other state has fucked it up this bad. The only thing comparable is DC, but they have less control of their own destiny.
diet_shasta_orange t1_j55amhn wrote
It's not a new industry. People have been growing and selling and smoking weed for quite some time now
[deleted] t1_j54gn8t wrote
[removed]
Benny-B-Fresh t1_j573whg wrote
How far have we come? One legal store more than we were at this point last year? 🤡
MirthandMystery t1_j57k5x3 wrote
Another opens Tuesday on 14th st and soon a Bleecker st shop opens. Roll out has been consistent with issuing proper licensing to responsible sellers.
From the news release out today: “The first round of marijuana retail licenses were greenlit three dozen businesses, making way for the first legal dispensary to open last month off Broadway, also in Manhattan. New York reserved its first round of licenses for applicants with marijuana convictions or their relatives, plus some nonprofit groups.
As with some other initial dispensaries to be supported by the Fund, this will provide licensees the opportunity to open on a short-term basis to fast-track sales and start generating capital for their businesses, after which they will close for final construction and then re-open on a long-term basis," the governor's office said Thursday.”
If you have no patience and don’t understand how things work you can buy unknown crap from others as you like and complain all you want.
mywallstbetsacct t1_j542wkw wrote
Well put
mowotlarx t1_j54rvkt wrote
One just opened literally across the street from City Hall.
New York fucked this up royally. Either hand out the licenses like candy or good luck shutting down one business every 2-3 blocks in the city through raids.
rinafiron t1_j55coyy wrote
And the cops confiscated all their tobacco products but left the weed alone. Admittedly, they were selling packs of cigs for $11 instead of $17 or whatever because they bought them out-of-state and resold them in the city. But this whole situation is fubar.
astoriaplayers t1_j55zv1w wrote
I’ve talked with more than one businessperson who is involved in these shops. Tobacco and mushrooms are the line, the weed just doesn’t matter much to them. It’s the other stuff. Note which shops get a meet and greet. There’s some commonalities.
There are a ton of products on the grey market right now from legal sources across the country, and it’s making it in by the freight load.
WaterMySucculents t1_j57bh8u wrote
Yea it’s ridiculous. They are charging $75k plus to apply for licenses and then spending $0 cracking down on every smoke shop/“CBD” store selling without a license.
SolitaryMarmot t1_j53bukz wrote
There's a massive market. There's a nice one in my neighborhood I go to all the time. Great staff. Good deals on pre rolls to grab on the way to a show. I love my local dispo.
TheMotionOfTheOcean t1_j53lo30 wrote
Maybe a dumb question, but where does one find their neighborhood dispensary?
Imhappy_hopeurhappy2 t1_j53x8yv wrote
Find a “smoke shop” with neon colored black light reflective decor floor to ceiling, and almost no actual tobacco or e-cigarette products.
Lostin_NY t1_j55mvk5 wrote
Will have Raw or some kind of stickers outside.
meekonesfade t1_j54qne3 wrote
In Park Slope they are everywhere. They advertise very clearly as a dispensary.
Rpanich t1_j55m998 wrote
Yeah, you can just check google maps for “weed” and a bunch will pop up. I picked up some edibles last week.
They’re about as expensive as my weed delivery guys were before, so it’s not really much cheaper yet.
Message_10 t1_j54wflf wrote
Care to name a few?
meekonesfade t1_j54yp8o wrote
The only name that sticks out to me is Mr. Nice Guys, but take the F or G to 7th ave and walk in either direction on 7th ave and there are tons of them. You can do the same on 5th ave in Park Slope.
mycateatstoenails t1_j56mi9j wrote
had no idea they were a store lmao. I’ve been getting deliveries from them since lock downs. quick question if you have a moment… do you tip on weed deliveries? I always treated them like the plug but now I feel like a cheap pos if they’re more of a business and expect a tip
meekonesfade t1_j57am8q wrote
When I went to the store they said they are not connected to the delivery service but to a chain that has a store in DC. I have never tipped weed delivery, but maybe other people do?
mycateatstoenails t1_j57x8mv wrote
holy shit that’s good to hear. haven’t ever tipped, but sometimes I feel paranoid since I order so often and it’s the same few couriers every time.
deanwheelz t1_j55vtzh wrote
Mr nice guy and most illegal dispensaries that I visited are selling counterfeit products.
SolitaryMarmot t1_j56rs3j wrote
I like Breckinridge Hemp on 6th and 31st. I work right around there so I pop in there all the time. I like the staff there a lot.
SolitaryMarmot t1_j54s7q8 wrote
Mind all say CBD or Weed somewhere on the sign. There's like 10 in my neighborhood.
aaronabsent t1_j56jtq4 wrote
Get off the phone? Walk around??
[deleted] t1_j56uwm0 wrote
[removed]
[deleted] t1_j5512pw wrote
[deleted]
Rubberbabybuggybum t1_j57ced2 wrote
Throw a rock maybe?
They’re everywhere.
Crustydonout t1_j55ce8s wrote
Google it
D14DFF0B t1_j57tza5 wrote
Uh, they're clear as day and don't even try to hide what they're selling.
deanwheelz t1_j55vljh wrote
You really have no idea what you are purchasing my friend. Good deals on pre rolls but do you even know wtf is inside that pre roll?
SolitaryMarmot t1_j56ar01 wrote
It's not really a great business model to try to make your customers sick. I'm assuming these people are paying high rents and payroll so they can try to make money. They are all buying from the same major suppliers in Colorado and NoCal. Like all retailers - they do have Quality Control people.
deanwheelz t1_j56dxbz wrote
You really have no idea my friend… “they are all buying from same major suppliers in Colorado and NorCal like all retailers do - they do have quality control”
That comment shows that you have no idea what you are talking about. Keep buying those pre rolls bud. Enjoy
SolitaryMarmot t1_j56esw7 wrote
Cool I will. I'll keep eating take out and brushing my teeth with fluoride water.
Tyzed t1_j5b89xa wrote
the “dispensaries” here definitely sell product that’s contaminated with all stuff. leafly did some tests on some carts and found ecoli in a cart from empire cannabis club
SolitaryMarmot t1_j5go8v1 wrote
10% of organic food has ecoli in it. It's in the Fertilizer.
deanwheelz t1_j56h1dv wrote
I can press the down vote button too. Shows how much of a dumb clown you are. Keep buying counterfeit pre rolls lmao
SolitaryMarmot t1_j56hr6e wrote
you really need to smoke one and chill bruh
FartSniffingDog t1_j571fbt wrote
SolitaryMarmot t1_j572o6x wrote
Lol yeah let's definitely use HIS sources. He got a good hookup I'm sure.
deanwheelz t1_j56j4zy wrote
Im chill. I just don’t like people that pretend to know about the marijuana industry and give bad advice that will hurt people down the line. I know people that got sick buying from some of these shops. You have no idea how tainted the market is but you want to pretend like it’s all gravy. If you in Brooklyn we can meet up and I’ll give you some real good bud to smoke and connect you with the right source. Don’t buy those pre rolls. Even legit pre rolls from big name brands are mostly disgusting. They use shake,trim,leaves…. Bottom of the barrel shit.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yZpzvdQrjNA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ooZ-rrtG7o
The guy above owns a dispensary in Cali
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A62cokar0B0
Here’s another one from a popular “weed tuber”
SandwichesTheIguana t1_j56knuk wrote
You're not chill. We all see it.
SolitaryMarmot t1_j56q1t3 wrote
Dealers are losing their minds now you can just walk in a store instead of dealing with their BS.
[deleted] t1_j56l0p9 wrote
[removed]
SolitaryMarmot t1_j56lflq wrote
Pre rolls exist so you don't have to whip out a nug at your desk at work and grid it up and roll it before you head to a show. It's the same reason the McDonald's corporation is a thing. Thousands of people eat there every day no matter how many internet weirdos post about how it's "corporate poison." Let people do what they want. I go to the store I like and buy the half gram I want and I smoke it and do my thing and have never had a problem. Thousands of people do the same every day. I'm sorry "your sources" are big mad about their market share dwindling but that isn't really my problem.
deanwheelz t1_j56nv9o wrote
Dude isn’t buying brand name pre rolls. He’s buying the feces pre rolls from his local bodega… there’s a difference. Cannon company is a pre roll company I trust,not a smoke shop thst rolled up shit. I buy pre rolls when I’m on the go too but you got to know what your buying. Someone that claims that they “dealt weed” did not sell bud ever in their life. Someone that tells you “you are done in this sub” is… never mind. 148 days on Reddit with 6k karma,enough said. Dude lives on Reddit. I already know what he looks like. Simp that pays $20 for a bodega pre roll
[deleted] t1_j5bkvxm wrote
[deleted]
09-24-11 t1_j5gyli3 wrote
You could say the same thing with a street weed dealer like it was 2010. You find a good and reliable spot and continue going. Get a recommendation from a friend. It’s not a complicated process.
P0stNutClarity t1_j53ig4n wrote
Lol there's 3 within a block radius of my building. Popped up in the last month. Abs that doesn't even count the corner stores that already sold it
Message_10 t1_j54wd36 wrote
Can you buy weee at those three places?
deanwheelz t1_j55va17 wrote
Nintendo weee?
fuckfuckfuck66 t1_j52z5av wrote
Government failing it's people once again
diet_shasta_orange t1_j5c5oyp wrote
As long as they aren't shutting down the illegal ones then they aren't really failing anyone.
SandwichesTheIguana t1_j55ng6q wrote
The real problem with this for me is wanting to get vape cartridges that are tested by accredited institutions. That's why I was looking forward to legit dispensaries.
Even some of these infused or kief-rolled joints are suspicious, even though their packaging is so lovingly replicated from real products in states with their shit together.
I just want to know I can trust a product that isn't just flower. That doesn't appear to be happening any time soon.
deanwheelz t1_j55tyuv wrote
A lot of bullshit being sold in these stores. Be careful
SandwichesTheIguana t1_j560uhl wrote
Agreed.
OkBottle2000 t1_j56z1e5 wrote
Idk, I just bought a raw garden from a smoke shop that came sealed with a QR code - and even I thought it would be some fake shit, but it actually brought me to raw gardens site and listed all of the contaminant testing stats for that particular cart. Manufacturing number matched as well. If it was a fake it was Insanely sophisticated
___pa___ t1_j56129a wrote
Most of the weed is delta-8, which is what they get off hemp plants. That's why it was legal, because it isn't delta-9 THC, which is cultivated for the THC. The weed is super-weak at these grey market places.
Spirited_Wonder1300 t1_j56ek4d wrote
False lol
[deleted] t1_j574cxp wrote
[deleted]
thesweetestchill_ t1_j54oy9e wrote
Tons of them in my area. What did they think was going to happen? Lots of stuff you’d find at dispensaries for much cheaper.
___pa___ t1_j563hj2 wrote
And we all know when something is cheaper it is better quality.
allightyollar t1_j53dilv wrote
Man, that cop in the thumbnail sure does have a sweet womb broom, I will say.
The_CerealDefense t1_j52xv10 wrote
Don't trust anything from Leafly in the slightest. Nothing they post isn't meant to be 100% self serving for the company. They'd post any story that served their interest.
They are not a news org in any sense, they are an online ad sales/storefront for weed stores.
mowotlarx t1_j54rzfh wrote
Have you looked around NYC lately? There's a new weed store every 2-4 blocks in many neighborhoods. I think their number is too low for the number of illegal shops, to be honest.
SandwichesTheIguana t1_j55ref8 wrote
Yes, but this headline passes the eye-test for anyone who has been outside in the last year, and is aware of the first legit dispensary opening.
drpvn t1_j52usdm wrote
Equity!
bsanchey t1_j54qq9t wrote
So let those other stores get a license. This ain’t hard.
ballinbeastauto t1_j55nrwi wrote
In order to get a license you need to comply with regulations (as they should). It includes not marketing to children, only buying from certain sources, and keeping records. Most of these places depend on not doing these things.
SandwichesTheIguana t1_j55r98o wrote
Exactly. There is no way that even the legit products in these stores is sourced in a way that would comply with the law.
Not to mention all the extremely dubious and potentially fake shit.
greenblue703 t1_j5a5jbf wrote
If every weed seller only bought in-state weed like the law says, the city would run out of weed in one day. Also lmao that you’re worried corner store weed shops are “marketing to children” OK do Budweiser next
greenblue703 t1_j5a5c8y wrote
Agreed. Why does the city think the fucking cops is the solution to everything??? They’re not gonna solve shit by seizing product and money from small business owners who can’t get the proper piece of paper yet. And Brooklyn is slated to get ZERO legal shops in 2023? What a joke
AugustWest7120 t1_j53nmdi wrote
Many are paying their taxes on sales. $$$ for the state.
werdnak84 t1_j53h51r wrote
It seems like there is one on every block.
Trevor519 t1_j54qh06 wrote
Canadian here, in Ontario cities they are just about everywhere. These stores will be just like Starbuck locations. We have been legal nationally for 5 years here and every year there are more and more stores. If there is an open retail location 9/10 it will be a pot shop unless it's right beside a school
CactusBoyScout t1_j56lzwv wrote
So they’re the new vape/CBD stores?
ike_tyson t1_j55iozp wrote
I went into a spot not far from me and the kid behind the counter no older than 22 tries to sell me gummies, tells me their "fire" and will fuck you up, lol. He also told me it was his first day...anyways the gummies were like 5 mg.
I had to catch my breath because I was laughing so hard .
At least know your fucking product.
deanwheelz t1_j55v4y9 wrote
Guys,don’t trust these fucking shops. I had an argument with a redditor a few months back for recommending these places. You really have no idea how bad the counterfeit problem is. Even if you stayed away from anything name brand and just purchased bud that’s still a risk,the cross contamination,the pesticides etc etc Reusing a jar and not cleaning it is the most common mistake that almost all these places make and you end up with a moldy jar and then you buy your weed from that jar. These places and most people are just after the money,some don’t even know wtf they are selling. I visited a lot of these shops and the people behind the counter were clueless about marijuana in general.
Edit: people with pop corn lungs will downvote me it’s okay. Save some money for the hospital bills down the line.
Most of you guys don’t understand that you are the Guinea pigs for these brands,there’s no long term testing going on for most of these products especially vapes. It kinda reminds me of Tabacco days when people thought it was good for them and boom people started dropping like flys.
SolitaryMarmot t1_j55wp4a wrote
Lol everyone who has used the same nug jar since college is very confused.
___pa___ t1_j562hht wrote
Even beyond the risk of contamination (which is valid especially for vape products - you don't want to be inhaling uncontrolledly chemicals...), the weed is typically weak. They sell delta-8, which is the buds off hemp plants not the buds from plants cultivated for the THC quality (which are delta-9). Don't believe me? Look it up and check the labels, although honestly I don't trust the labels either. I see no need to take chances with my health or being ripped off when I can easily buy from housing works. Hopefully more legit dispensaries open up soon and this headache weed gets squeezed out.
Any stoner will tell you if the weed is priced cheep, it is cheep. It's like drinking night train or mad dog 20-20.
deanwheelz t1_j568wxs wrote
👍 I agree
The vapes is beyond chemicals. It’s fucking metal leaching in vapes that’s a big problem too that people are clueless. They overheat,all of them no matter. Some brands got the fully ceramic carts and that combats the metal leaching problem.
The people with pop corn lungs will downvote me and you,it’s okay in a little time they will remember this. They don’t understand that they are the Guinea pigs for these brands. It kinda reminds me of Tabacco days when people thought it was good for them and boom people started dropping like flys.
SolitaryMarmot t1_j572x3v wrote
Most places have a delta 8, delta 9 and CBD section. At least the ones I've been to.
timmy6591 t1_j55qyfs wrote
Good for them. The state's bureaucratic and bloated roll-out of the licensing is crippling. No normal person (including those convicted of non-violent marijuana offenses who the licensing laws are supposed to favor) would ever be able to navigate the application process. NYS has fucked this up beyond all recognition.
__theoneandonly t1_j564rmk wrote
I mean, that’s also how the state’s liquor license process is. New bars have to basically be done being built, and then sit empty for sometimes a year while the state works through all the red tape. Usually the business opening has to have a lawyer to deal with the yellow tape, and then you have to have the money in the bank for pay rent with zero income for months and months while the state investigates whether or not some Karen on the community board might be able to hear person exiting your venue after midnight.
TheObliviousPickle t1_j54oh7x wrote
Anyone here got any favorites? Mine seems to be serving worse and worse stuff
Spirited_Wonder1300 t1_j56evxb wrote
Frankie’s corner more of a coffee shop and you can byob but Deff an Amsterdam feel .. good products but same as everywhere else pretty much
Consistent_Pen_9099 t1_j5uzk48 wrote
Where is Frankie’s located in manhattan ? There is a place someone like this at 9 street between 1 and ave a
the bud is ok but you can smoke and get outdoor ok bud for 35 a quarter and better quality for more
_Maxolotl t1_j53gimx wrote
What happens if somebody opens up an unlicensed liquor store? (askin for a friend)
Astoria321 t1_j553pl2 wrote
There's no real liquor black market, you have to order through distributors who need an SLA verified ID number in order to get wholesale deliveries so it's basically a non-starter. In case you were legitimately curious
lupuscapabilis t1_j56kv48 wrote
The bodega near where I used to live in Queens used to sell pre-made vodka and fruit punch drinks for like $5. They only really told regulars, though. It was nice being able to grab a cheap, strong camouflaged drink on my way to going out in the city.
That's about the only example of black market liquor I've come across.
marishtar t1_j56rnbz wrote
Even then, I'd imagined the liquor itself came from a legal source, even if they were selling without a license.
[deleted] t1_j54b9pt wrote
[removed]
[deleted] t1_j53trf9 wrote
[removed]
DYMAXIONman t1_j55f8p8 wrote
It probably won't be enforced until permits are more widespread
thought4toolong t1_j55uh77 wrote
The risk might be worth the reward to some. I think that the products are confiscated but no jail/prison is in place for this. Weed flower and products are so cheap these days, these stores prolly make more than what they will lose in a raid.
fapplesauc3 t1_j568vga wrote
I get it delivered and it costs the same as legal. Plus they offer discounts when I purchase in bulk. Still not nearly as good as living in Washington where I could buy an 8th for $20, but I’m getting it delivered straight to my door, so it’s acceptable. The legal market will never be able to compete. It’s just not going to happen unless we see the low prices from the west coast, which I have yet to find anywhere east of Nevada.
Spirited_Wonder1300 t1_j56fj83 wrote
It’s just funny because if your such a stoner and have knowledge about weed then u should have some sort of idea of what ur buying .. what did u do before dispensaries or medical ?? Like do you not remember getting in strangers cars or going to the projects for weed .. Just stop being pussies lol
TheGoatEater t1_j56jvel wrote
Am I the only one who still prefers delivery services? I’ve been using the same one for almost ten years and I see no reason to change it up.
lupuscapabilis t1_j56k4ku wrote
I've been mostly vaping, and the oils I get from legit stores are a lot better (and probably safer) than any I've gotten from delivery. More expensive, but better.
OkBottle2000 t1_j56yeak wrote
I love it
radish-slut t1_j58a39e wrote
is that Tim Curry?
magicfitzpatrick t1_j5a2yec wrote
Just come to NJ…… the roll out went smooth.
https://data.nj.gov/Reference-Data/New-Jersey-Cannabis-Dispensary-Locations/uyq5-2c2g
cybersharque247 t1_j55wk21 wrote
Look for “exotic snacks” and you will find they’re everywhere
DocBee65 t1_j55h8wt wrote
I was just there. Midtown smells like a giant pot factory as do the subways 🔥🌲💨🤷🏻♂️
jay073zs t1_j54n8si wrote
keep smoking that snake oil from these fake ass smoke shops and enjoy those popcorn lungs ... idc if its rec now I'm still going to Curaleaf or Vireo to buy shit
___pa___ t1_j54y3u3 wrote
Plus all that weed at rando smoke shops is TCH-8 weed from the pandemic era not the cultivated THC-9 stuff you get at legit controlled dispensaries around the country. It feels like back in middle school where all the dork kids and jocks are buying oregano from the stoners...
jay073zs t1_j54ypc7 wrote
exactly ... it's literally $75 for a medical card just go about it the right way and consume safely
___pa___ t1_j54zrbt wrote
Or go to housing works. I went the first week to try it out happy to not have to pick it up from NJ or Mass., and I waited all of 45 minutes. It was great - chatting to the customers and passersby. It's got to be a smaller line by now.
Plus I prefer to benefit a non-profit not some scummy dude selling cut fake-ass headache weed.
jakewi t1_j55a1ho wrote
I went the other day and they said line was about 15 min. I ordered online though so was able to walk right in and pickup, was in and out in under 5 minutes. So easy to do.
Titan_Astraeus t1_j55b638 wrote
Nice I gotta try it out! Most of the stuff I've gotten on the street is kindaⁿ trash compared to curaleaf..
___pa___ t1_j563z1h wrote
Yea, housing works has the same quality as I get in Mass or Nevada. It is short of variety now but I expect that to change. I just wish more stores would open up I hear the farmers upstate have literal tons ready to sell...
SonOfGawd t1_j55zdzx wrote
Haven’t been there yet. Do you know if they have a separate line for medical card holders? I know some legal dispensaries in other states do.
deanwheelz t1_j55wp31 wrote
You are right about these places selling bullshit but you don’t necessarily need to go to curaleaf or vireo… they over price for mids.
jay073zs t1_j563lod wrote
Flower been way better over the last 6 months and if you're smart you bulk up when they got 30% off everything (which is literally like every other week)
& I'm talking about the oil anyway - whatever they have on sale comes with test results but if you wanna risk your health on snake oil to save a buck go right ahead
deanwheelz t1_j56abms wrote
What kind of “oil” are you talking about because I refuse to vape distillate no matter how clean it is. It just gives me a headache. Are you dabbing distillate or vaping? I’m assuming you are talking about distillate vapes… spend the extra money on live resin atleast… just make sure it’s real live resin,a lot of brands use wordplay to make you think you are buying live resin but it’s really distillate with live resin terps or cannabis derived terpenes. I mostly dab rosin and if it’s a vape it has to be resin or rosin. All that distillate shatter,crumble and thcA diamonds are gross.
jay073zs t1_j56dk0t wrote
any oil you can buy from these bullshit backdoor smoke shops ... I was buying the 90% liquid concentrate & smoking it in a rubi pen but I ran out & they don't stock it any more
deanwheelz t1_j56gvn5 wrote
Wtf is 90% liquid concentrate? Is that nicotine vapes? I never took a single puff of these nicotine vapes like juul or other shit. It’s bad enough I was uneducated and purchased hot dog water thc distillate oil early on before live resin and hash rosin was a thing,I’m definitely feeling the effects of vaping the thc hot dog water… I hope I didn’t do to much damage and all I can do is educate people so they don’t make the same mistake I did. Like you said,there’s now test results aka COA for thc vapes but I still worry about the metal leaching. The brands that switched to ceramic cartridges are moving in the right direction but still I think about how we are the Guinea pigs to this whole thing. It’s kinda like when ciggaretes was the rave and nobody knew wtf it can really do to your health. Remember all the cool looking ciggaretes boxes? Joe camel looking all cool on his motorcycle. Marijuana industry is kinda doing the same thing with these Mylar bags that have cool designs on them… they are specific targeting children/teens and that’s not cool. Also what’s disturbing me is that most teens get introduced these days to thc via bullshit oil that’s damaging them at an early age. Atleast when I started smoking 22 years ago it was just bud.
jay073zs t1_j56h5s4 wrote
___pa___ t1_j552kyi wrote
Title should read 1200 stores selling deltaTHC-8 weed...
SandwichesTheIguana t1_j55rqas wrote
Yeah, no... the majority of weed at these places is just weed.
I'm skeptical of vape products, anything flavored, anything with "crystals" of kief role, and even edibles. Because I can't look at it and know the difference.
But plenty of these places are selling high-quality bud.
Upset_Title t1_j55v2cz wrote
No, it’s definitely delta and synthetics. Many articles written about extensive testing and sampling done. I ordered from a delivery service and it was all synthetic but advertised as weed and dabs
SandwichesTheIguana t1_j55zaem wrote
That doesn't make a ton of sense since Delta-8 products are restricted in New York and marijuana is legal.
It's easier to just grow weed than to produce illegal K2 or Delta-8 and sell it in bulk.
As for dabs? Yeah, if it isn't flower I can visually review, I don't really trust it.
___pa___ t1_j5639e4 wrote
It's easier now to grow it because it is legal in NY, but for the last three years it's been all imported or illegally grown delta-8 that they stocked up on. Do you think the people growing BS weed just tossed out all their plants and started over? They are just selling the bunk to bodegas. The real controlled farms have no reason to sell to bodegas they have a shitload of medicinal and now recreational customers. Personally I prefer buying from a farm that grows prescription weed than some joker growing his own shit in a basement in SI. Why bother now that the good controlled stuff is so easy to get?
SandwichesTheIguana t1_j5671he wrote
"The real controlled farms."
Are you just imagining that 100% of black market weed is fake because it doesn't come from legal grow houses?
That doesn't make any sense.
People have been growing illegal weed in enormous bulk for a long, long time. That didn't just go away.
Upset_Title t1_j56qy6t wrote
Lol. Yeah I guess since it’s restricted it’s impossible 💀
SandwichesTheIguana t1_j56twoc wrote
How is it MORE possible than something that ISN'T restricted?
deanwheelz t1_j55wfm8 wrote
You think the same place that are carrying counterfeit vapes,edibles and pre rolls will have high quality bud? If you think mold,pesticides or some E. coli,on your bud is high quality then enjoy 😉
SandwichesTheIguana t1_j55ynzm wrote
I think it's the same level of trust you put in the guy who sells you weed who gets it from who knows the fuck where.
Very few people on the black market buy directly from their source.
I am not sure why I should trust my delivery guy any more than the local weed store. They both are questionably sourced.
There seems to be a few they are awaiting license that are more legit and bill you for "consultation."
Overall, the situation here is about as obnoxious as DC, but with fewer excuses for it.
deanwheelz t1_j567mtf wrote
I trust my “delivery” guy because he’s a friend of mine for many many years and he’s a smoker too so he wouldn’t want to poison himself along with his customers… his menu doesn’t have a million things on it,just the stuff HE grows with love and maybe a few others that he trusts. I know not everybody can have that kind of connection but start with buying bud from somebody that actually smokes. And avoid the name brand pre rolls,vapes and edibles because majority of that shit is counterfeit. For example,majority of the jeeter pre rolls are fake if not all that’s sold here in nyc including the vapes. I would just stay away from pre rolls,vapes and edibles in general for now. Buy only bud… use your eyes,nose and taste buds to determine if you smoking shit or good quality grown bud. Look for white ash,smooth tasty inhale and smooth exhale. I barely cough from good bud and I admit that I made mistakes early on with purchasing vapes and I’m paying for it now and probably will pay more for it down the line… i cough like crazy but regardless of how fucked up my lungs are good bud or good concentrate (not hotdog water) and I barely cough.
SandwichesTheIguana t1_j56ancz wrote
Your assumption that the people inside the smoke-filled weed shops in Brooklyn with ring cameras and locks don't smoke weed is... something.
I am not speaking of Manhattan bodegas that also sell poppers and moon pies.
Also, I said I only buy bud.
My experience is that my delivery service has worse flower than some of the new popups.
MirthandMystery t1_j53769b wrote
And the worst appearances and skeezy vibe. Makes the city look more trashy and sets up ideal places for organized gangs to target. Already happened in a few places-just last week a vendor got shot from Hells Kitchen during a robbery and 2 shooters got away.
Next phase comes dealer guys arming themselves (already happening in a few shops) and being willing to pull on anyone shady looking.. This is a legit danger where we can quickly sink back to the 80’s style BS with bars on windows, rival sellers fighting for customers, in some places harder drugs, fentanyl and guns being sold too- a normal thing for those using pot sales as a front. For those under 30 this was common at bodegas and delis for ages and are still remnants in a few places. Don’t be naive it isn’t happening again.
Most readers never lived through those times and don’t understand how hard it is to things clean up once guys consider that as normal.
Aggro_Will t1_j53g0c1 wrote
All the ones I've see have literally been just head shops that were already there or actually semi-upscale/legit/fashionable-looking places offering a veneer of legitimacy even if they're gray market.
thesweetestchill_ t1_j54pbdd wrote
They’re also providing jobs to people. If they were as bad as this person claims nobody wouldn’t be going to them. There is an obvious demand. People are so silly
Imhappy_hopeurhappy2 t1_j53y4vb wrote
Ah the slippery slope argument, in all its 20th century glory and ignorance. WhAt’S nExT, HeRoiN sUpErCenTErs?
thesweetestchill_ t1_j54p7vn wrote
I’m sorry but you’re kinda talking out of your ass. Most of these shops are super sleek, clean and look no different than any “legal” dispensary. If they were as tacky and trashy as you claim than the hundreds and thousands of everyday people in the city wouldn’t be going to them for cannabis. 🤷🏼♀️
deanwheelz t1_j55ubyv wrote
They look super sleek like empire cannabis club but sell you shady shit and over charge you on it. Fuck them.
Edit: hundred thousands of people are clueless as to what they are really purchasing. They have no idea how fucked up the marijuana industry is. Counterfeit is a huge problem.
__theoneandonly t1_j56387t wrote
Yeah tell that to the 12 foot tall rick and morty heads with red eyes, or SpongeBob smoking a joint with chunky from rugrats graffitied on the side of every gray-market dispensary around me. Hardly what I’d call “clean” or “sleek.”
MirthandMystery t1_j566qey wrote
They’re going because it’s novel. Young people will always fall for newness. This is going through the stage CBD did a few years ago.
People who know better are still getting good stuff from their Guy (who doesn’t have overhead costs). Stable prices, safe and top quality.. what these shops unregulated shops can’t offer. Many are about hawking adjacent smoking pipes, lighters, vapes and papers, and ultimately, are profit minded because they have high rent and taxes to pay.
MirthandMystery t1_j568f91 wrote
The ones I’m talking about that are trashy and sketchy don’t care about quality and consistency. They’re the equivalent of fast food, and not those clean well run locations.. which quality wise is actually at least regulated and stable in its own way.
The crap ones may not last for this reason, be unable to make enough to stay open so that’s good for better sellers..
[deleted] t1_j551f9o wrote
[deleted]
MirthandMystery t1_j55xtan wrote
Then yours is a legit style one probably wanting a license, not the ratty shady ones, or tacky ones with all neon storefronts, head shop/pawn shop look selling crap quality.
There’s a wide mix of shops all over and each are different so of course their intent and professionalism will vary widely. Some more legit ones do just want to focus on supplying high quality pot, others branched out already and are using pot sales as a front. Always happens when profits can be made selling other things.
And as weed competition grows and buyer base tops out they’ll be market attrition which forces those who want to survive to seek income from other sources even if wasn’t their initial intent. It’s normal to branch out ‘product’ wise but that’s exactly why I laid out the original argument.. the eventual effect over long term isn’t always rosy. Older folks know what I’m talking about.
GarysCrispLettuce t1_j53azyc wrote
I don't even know who would go in one of these hundreds of sketchy looking unofficial weed stores. In fact I never see anyone in any of them. They're grossly oversaturating the market. And on the lower east side where there's dozens of them, there's already been 2 shootings associated with them and I just saw another one on Rivington the other day that had police tape around it and a cop guarding the outside, never found out what happened.
zeldaleft t1_j53d8zo wrote
Stop with the fear mongering. these "unofficial" stores are just bodegas and not the wretched hives of scum and villainy youre painting them as. If you weren't a right-wing troll account I might be compelled to console you over weed not being sold at CVS.
But since you clearly are, STFU.
GarysCrispLettuce t1_j53eend wrote
"right wing troll account" - lol
"bodegas" - lol. No they're not. And the city will just end up cracking down on them and they'll probably end up been banned from applying for a proper license. Not as if I didn't give them a chance, anyway. Bought a jar of edibles from one a few weeks ago, totally dud. They were supposed to have 30mg each of THC but I ate three of them and still didn't get a hit (I can get high from 10mg). Lesson learned - there's no official standards adhered to, so it's a crapshoot. And then I heard about multiple shootings in them within days of each other, and I guess that was the decider. Think I'll just stick with my good old reliable delivery guy and restrict my edible purchases to officially licensed stores.
zeldaleft t1_j53h01b wrote
Yeah, the weed is shit bc of no regulations, but let's not pretend like the stores are sketchy. Your post has dogwhistle all over it and your swift and extensive defense of it goes a long way twd confirming my suspicions.
GarysCrispLettuce t1_j54yfsu wrote
Nope, no "dog whistle," that's just pure fiction inside your head. This wasn't just "shit weed," it was selling a packaged product that was absolutely fake and without any THC in it. This is an area of commerce that needs regulation and consumer protection. You're not going to get that in a sketchy unlicensed "smoke shop," sorry.
zeldaleft t1_j55zufk wrote
Sure, Jan.
GarysCrispLettuce t1_j5akeuj wrote
I don't know why you are so triggered by the concept of unlicensed weed shops being sketchy compared to licensed weed shops.
zeldaleft t1_j5bhvwt wrote
I don't know why you're still commenting on this days after the fact.
Life is full of mysteries.
dropthatpopthat t1_j53t57z wrote
ok druggie
JuVondy t1_j54kkxh wrote
lol you UWS’ers are the fucking worst
Gozillasbday t1_j54zk3p wrote
You're calling a person who smokes weed a druggy? Are you a religious fundamentalist or something?
csweeney80 t1_j54cfvx wrote
Fellow upper west sider here. There is one under my bedroom window and the neighborhood has gone to shit. People are standing outside getting drunk and high all day and night and they just throw their trash on the ground. I will be thrilled to live on a side street with no bars or weed stores.
[deleted] t1_j53tz75 wrote
[removed]
TwilitSky t1_j52ui0v wrote
Were they seriously supposed to wait years for these clowns to get their act together and issue licenses? It's 2023 and we approved this in 2021. It's ridiculous and they only have themselves to blame for the unlicensed marijuana market.