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qdpb t1_j575dbp wrote

Reply to comment by HEIMDVLLR in Police need to crack down on people in Brooklyn not stopping at red lights by malefootlover1

I'm sure this happens, but again, you're trying to equate two things are are not comparable. About 300 people die each year in New York from cars, and about 0 people die each year in New York from jaywalking. These are different things, on a different scale.

I'm not saying jaywalking is good, of course we should all look both ways and everything. I'm saying it is nothing compared to running red lights in a car. One has nothing to do with another, and one of them is a serious offense, while the other one is a nuissance.

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HEIMDVLLR t1_j57922m wrote

They are comparable, because they have a cause and effect on each other. Cars swerving to avoid hitting pedestrians put others in danger. Running across traffic to catch a bus before it pulls off is dangerous. Staring at your phone while crossing the street is dangerous.

Jaywalking have caused accidents, even cyclists complain about pedestrians stepping off the curb into the bike lane and vice-versa, cyclist blowing red lights and hitting pedestrians crossing with the right-of-way.

The point is, everyone has to do better and not be an asshole toward others commuting.

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qdpb t1_j57ctas wrote

Here we go again. They don't have a strong cause and effect on each other. Drivers don't kill 300 New Yorkers a year because of jaywalking or pedestrians staring at the phones.

I don't know if you're doing a bit at this point, but it's frankly offensive how over and over you're trying to assign the responsibility for driving responsibly to the people who are not in the car.

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HEIMDVLLR t1_j57o2lj wrote

The difference between us is, I drive and know what I see every time I’m driving. You would be surprised how often drivers have to react to inconsiderate pedestrians.

People have this attitude that if they get hit, they can sue. Problem is, you can’t guarantee you will survive the hit.

I have to blow my horn at pedestrians crossing against the light. The person taking their time crossing after the light is flashing to don’t cross, don’t care to look up because they’re distracted by their phone.

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qdpb t1_j57u1l4 wrote

I get what you see when you're driving. I just don't understand why that's relevant. Do you think the behavior you see allows you to run red lights? Or why are you recounting these anecdotes?

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