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bklyn1977 t1_j51tj70 wrote

This isn't the complaint department.

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co_matic t1_j51u2kk wrote

The double parking in Inwood/Washington Heights is unreal

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Outrageous-Debate-64 t1_j51v5s1 wrote

Gotta factor in 2-3 cars flying through a red light before you go. Grinds my gears

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Offthepoint t1_j51vftq wrote

I've got news for you, a lot of people aren't stopping for red lights - all over the place! As for the double parking in Inwood/WH, it's been that way for decades.

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No_Recommendation929 t1_j51x3r7 wrote

Brooklyn is big. You’re going to have to be more specific about which part of Brooklyn you’re talking about…

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mowotlarx t1_j51xl3m wrote

Replying to Offthepoint (#1,409,544)

If NYPD bothered to try to enforce traffic laws, perhaps by writing tickets at intersections where the worst violations happen, people might be more cognizant of stopping at reds. Things are as bad as they are because NYPD refuses to do their jobs.

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Captaintripps t1_j5216m7 wrote

The NYPD absolutely does not give a single iota of a fuck about dangerous drivers. The change would start at the top, but the mayor is a former cop, his DoT has no desire to take over traffic enforcement and fight the NYPD on that (even though they are legally allowed to do so), nor are they approaching traffic safety design in any holisic way, and the council as a group won't touch the NYPD budget at all.

So you're kind of stuck filing 311 complaints or dragging your ass to a "Build the Block" meeting, where some bored sergeant will almost, but never quite give enough of a fuck to help the situation.

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HEIMDVLLR t1_j5226qp wrote

I noticed a lot more “zero fucks given” across the board since the pandemic. Pedestrians, drivers, cyclist and straphangers just said fuck the rules.

Everyone is ignoring the traffic lights/stop signs, crosswalk signals and distracted by their phones.

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madeyoulookatmynuts t1_j523o0k wrote

It’s insane here in kew gardens and forest hills. Over the holidays I saw a family member who is currently NYPD and they shared some context.

Apparently it’s a two factor problem.

  1. The NYPD really doesn’t want to engage with low level stuff. Most officers are legit concerned that traffic stops and low level stuff will escalate, and they feel if it does escalate they won’t be backed up by management. Not saying it’s wrong or right, just that it’s where they’re at mentally now.

  2. District attorneys can’t really prosecute vehicular stuff. It’s all about proving intent and the way legal statutes are written, it is next to impossible for da’s to prove intent when a car is involved. The example they used was this: someone runs a red light and crashes into a parent and stroller. First you gotta prove the car ran the light, second you gotta prove that there was intent to hit that person and their kid. Morally we know the driver is at fault for running a light, but legally it’s much murkier. The minute the driver says it was an accident, or I didn’t see them, or I thought the light was yellow, etc. it becomes legally challenging to prove much of anything. This is why da’s stay away from these. It harms their stats (I.e. winning cases).

This is why Di blasio wanted a task force outside the NYPD at DOT to investigate car crashes and issue recommendations to the da’s.

Lastly the culture around cars has changed. When I learned how to drive 20-22 years ago, my parents (boomers) were pretty adamant that hitting someone was morally wrong. It was tied to a values system. Nowadays most people relegate accidents to an insurance issue, not a moral one. Hit someone, too bad my insurance will cover it. At worst my premium goes up. That’s the new mentality and it leads to risky behaviors that border in antisocial behavior.

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ssseltzer t1_j5246r5 wrote

i almost get hit by a car in a crosswalk, with a walk light, twice a week

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franticredditperson t1_j524fjm wrote

They also need to crack down people in brooklyn with there motorcycles going brrrrrrrr on the pedestrian sidewalk. Walking on the sidewalk now feels more dangerous than on the road because of this

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Carmilla31 t1_j524uoq wrote

After Covid, laws are just suggestions in NYC now.

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_Maxolotl t1_j527o2i wrote

more red light cameras.

I'm so fucking tired of watching semitrucks run all the reds near my local elementary school except the one that they know has a camera. put cameras on all of them.

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jaeshellz t1_j5280pk wrote

It’s wild out here. Cars are parking on crosswalks by me (university heights). No ticket. No tow. Kids trying to cross the street can’t even do it safely

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froggythefish t1_j529hj4 wrote

Before the police can crack down on people not stopping at red lights, the police need to learn they’re actually not allowed to run red lights

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froggythefish t1_j52a38l wrote

Replying to malefootlover1 (#1,410,412)

Poorly paid??? How is 70k poorly paid? That’s well more than average, and all they need to do is grope people for looking suspicious. Or respond to a welfare check, take some notes, and go back to cruising around town. Or beat up and fine some poor dude for hopping a subway turn style.

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HDL772 t1_j52boy4 wrote

Cops still on their hissy fit strike

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LouisSeize t1_j52cgw4 wrote

Replying to madeyoulookatmynuts (#1,410,075)

> District attorneys can’t really prosecute vehicular stuff. It’s all about proving intent and the way legal statutes are written, it is next to impossible for da’s to prove intent when a car is involved.

That's completely incorrect. No intent is required to be proved for most moving violations including red lights and speeding.

District Attorneys do not usually prosecute moving violations since the creation of the Traffic Violations Bureau (and its predecessor agencies) at least 40 years ago.

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Inig039 t1_j52gk2d wrote

There’s a new vice documentary on this. A lot of people obstruct their license plates, so even if there’s a camera or someone snaps a photo of someone running a red, they can’t track the car. And apparently off duty cops do this all the time, so when they’re on duty they don’t enforce it, when they see an obstructed plate. I was wondering why cars were so confidently honking at ME to get out of the crosswalk, when THEY had a red light. Unless there’s a police officer right there, no consequences. New Yorkers only care about themselves. We need to RFID their cars or something.

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bkornblith t1_j52iev7 wrote

You think they’ll crack down on themselves lol

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matzoh_ball t1_j52jwti wrote

Replying to Carmilla31 (#1,410,203)

It’s definitely an understaffing issue but the cops that are still around also just won’t do their job. I’ve seen several incidences where people broke traffic laws hardcore (I’m talking excessive speeding, running red lights or stop signs, going against one ways) and the cops that saw it didn’t even bat an eye.

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Ok-Strain-9847 t1_j52ksqq wrote

Going through the 'bad parts' of Brooklyn traffic lights, even 20 years ago, was considered 'Optional'. Somehow, I doubt that has changed.

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LionessofElam t1_j52obqz wrote

That's gotten noticeably worse, as has completely blocking intersections. There needs to be a crackdown on both of these problems. The revenue from these tickets alone could probably bring down the national debt lolol.

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Atuk-77 t1_j52qb8i wrote

if people want to depend on cars the they should move to the suburbs, police could easily get their budget out of double parking and other traffic violations

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bangbangthreehunna t1_j52rki8 wrote

Replying to mowotlarx (#1,411,243)

Gonzalez and Clark have been doing the same for years. Its all broken windows. Criminals know they can get away with low level felonies and vast major of misdemeanors. That translate to recklessness and lack of care.

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Solid_Angel t1_j52s9t3 wrote

"Over 130,000 moving violation summonses have been issued by police in Brooklyn, YTD November 2022."

This was a direct response to my exact post about how crazy it is in Brooklyn.

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Mr1988 t1_j52u3i6 wrote

Driving on the wrong side of the road to beat traffic too

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OutrageousForce5865 t1_j52uimu wrote

Was in a car accident and called 911. They said police are not going to the scene of accidents anymore and just exchange insurance info with other party. Not sure what they do anymore

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DawgsWorld t1_j52utah wrote

That would be quality-of-life enforcement which the voters of NY said they don’t want.

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malefootlover1 OP t1_j52v29p wrote

Replying to DawgsWorld (#1,411,583)

I am born and raised in NYC Queens so since I came back in 19 this city is not the city I once knew. Very sad!!!!!!I did not vote for low trash and low everything lifestyle that makes NYC a third world city.

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huebomont t1_j52v811 wrote

The cops benefit from their being no road rules because they like to speed, run reds, not pay tolls, park illegally, etc.

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malefootlover1 OP t1_j52voeo wrote

Replying to froggythefish (#1,410,435)

I dont know what the starting salaries are for cops in 22-23 wasn't there a story about cops going to FL because Florida paid them better and gave bonuses and treated them better. So if they made 70k they would be well off and at least better off. It would depend on how much FL would pay them to relocate?

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sbb214 t1_j52y3wa wrote

Replying to co_matic (#1,409,470)

I co-sign about uptown. Trying to cross B'way at 204th a couple of nights ago almost run over by a NJ-plated Mustang making a sharp right turn onto 204 heading east. Being followed by police who did the same thing to me. not awesome.

every stop light seems to be stoptional to folks up here. traffic in Jakarta is more civilized.

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csgowtfisgoingon t1_j52z9zt wrote

Brooklyn probably has the highest rate of death by vehicular accidents and im sure its not not reported anywhere. I've seen enough videos of these accidents. Its crazy why they dont enforce the rules. They should put a ticketing system in place esp for that area.

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mowotlarx t1_j52zzr1 wrote

Replying to bangbangthreehunna (#1,411,543)

Keep going in circles to find a way this isn't the fault of the NYPD.

These are traffic violations, not murders. You think Big Bad Bragg is doing BaiL ReFoRm for people who use fake plates? No. The cops refuse to enforce because most of them don't live here, drive in from elsewhere and have illegal plates on their own cars.

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CantSeeShit t1_j5302ha wrote

I drive a semi thru the 5 boroughs, like full sized semi. I fucken get it, you need to double park your fucken box truck or whatever deliver to a store BUT CAN WE PICK ONE SIDE AT LEAST?

Like if 2 people are parked on the left why you gonna park askew on the fucken right so I gotta goddamn turn my truck into a piece of spaghetti to maneuver thru

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Darth_JarJar300 t1_j530nmn wrote

Start with people who don't put their headlights on when it's raining. Easy money for the city, there's one in every group at every light.

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LostSomeDreams t1_j534cs8 wrote

Replying to matzoh_ball (#1,410,950)

Wow their unions suck. The department gets plenty of money, they should be arguing for more of that to go to cops’ homes instead of to their paramilitary armaments and robot dogs. I know they’re unionized…

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TrumpLicksBalls00 t1_j53cncl wrote

Replying to Outrageous-Debate-64 (#1,409,524)

Is the flying through red lights a new thing? The other day I saw literally 5 cars beep, one after the other, acting as if their Camry is a disguised fire ambulance, running through the red light. That needs to be squashed because it’s going to kill someone

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[deleted] t1_j53d248 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,412,542)

> BLM wanted the community to have no police presence

…no? I heard a lot of people talking about better allocation of resources so the police aren’t dealing with homeless people, the mentally ill, not arming them with army-level tanks, etc etc. Yeah, there are/were extremists, same as every movement. Seems like a waste of everyone’s time to focus on them, though.

If all you’re willing to see is the right wing trope of a movement there’s never going to be any progress.

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pattuspl t1_j53db4b wrote

In my opinion 3rd avenue in BK is the worst for double parking.

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There is also a restaurant on 4th ave and 100th which uses I think bus stop and regular space - for valet, they basically double park lol.

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chale122 t1_j53dnb9 wrote

op is a troll and this is a bait post

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Turbulent_Link1738 t1_j53gdad wrote

Replying to Captaintripps (#1,409,908)

I guarantee you nothing would change if DOT took over traffic enforcement. It would be the same work with a person wearing different words on their uniform patch. The only way it changes is if fines are increased, vehicle pursuits are authorized, and actual jail time for leading cops on pursuits.

People need to understand they’re fucked 6 ways to Sunday if they get stopped by a cop. They’re not gonna obey the law otherwise because there’s no incentive to be a safe driver.

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Turbulent_Link1738 t1_j53gx8s wrote

Replying to malefootlover1 (#1,410,746)

While you are correct that cops did make 25k a year starting (just over the poverty line as per their contract so they couldn’t qualify for government aid) those same cops had their contract raised to 45k starting and 85k topped out. That being said, look at the neighboring counties, cops making 100 110 120 even 150 a year before overtime doing half the workload NYPD has. They make a “lot” compared to low income jobs but they’re the low income job next to their peers.

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Turbulent_Link1738 t1_j53h7zj wrote

Replying to chale122 (#1,412,829)

Those are executives and not representative of rank and file. There’s maybe less than 1000 cops making that income, and that’s only because they’re 6/7 tiers of supervision up. Your average street cop is looking at maybe 130 if he’s getting a shitton of overtime and

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Turbulent_Link1738 t1_j53hh8n wrote

Replying to Refreshingpudding (#1,410,501)

If they showed up before someone gets shot they’d be called hyper aggressive for arresting people for crimes that were never committed.

And also; they routinely do show up “before” someone gets shot: the vast majority of their gun arrests are made without any shots fired on either side.

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Turbulent_Link1738 t1_j53hwge wrote

Replying to DawgsWorld (#1,411,583)

People cried against Broken Windows because cops were wasting their time on minor crimes instead of “real crimes”. Now minor shit is on the rise and people are crying that police don’t enforce broken windows. It’s a pendulum. Things will get worse before they get better.

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TrekkerMcTrekkerface t1_j53impt wrote

I started noticing this in earnest two months ago, red lights are now at best a stop sign, often just a yield, and sadly often completely ignored. I would say only 10% of drivers are behaving like they did 4 years ago.

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hoffmanmclaunsky t1_j53l8et wrote

It's insane. I've literally seen people do this shit right in front of cop cars. They do not give a shit and it makes my blood boil.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_j53loih wrote

Replying to mowotlarx (#1,409,686)

Unless I’m missing something, the cop has to stop the vehicle to write a summons.

But if the driver refuses to stop, they can’t be chased according to their rules.

So here’s the loophole to never get a moving violation infraction ticket in NYC: never stop for a cop.

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MedicStryfe t1_j53mmsj wrote

I've been seeing lot of road violations lately, but running red lights are the worse. I'm always cautious when driving through some major intersections as major accidents usually happens there.

People driving blinding lights / high beams on at night (NYPD used to pull cars with none OEM blinding projector lights in the past) now everyone just does it at full brightness. It's like a laser parade for people with astigmatism. Then there's driving in the emergency lane/shoulder during traffic. Have had close calls when trying to exit because some a-hole was driving pretty recklessly at that lane illegally.

Lately it feels like I have to be super defensive all the time now. Biggest problem is the lack rule enforcement just to deter the behavior. People tend to drive better when NYPD traffic cops are actually making stops and citations.

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jackwoww t1_j53nqvr wrote

Drivers have gotten so bad since the pandemic. Running red lights, speeding, brights always on, stupid loud exhaust…then there’s the ebikes constantly speeding down sidewalks, blowing lights, driving the wrong on one way streets. Such a shit show right now.

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moodypisces t1_j53odyy wrote

This is why I decided to get an apartment in Queens. There’s a calmness that I can’t get in Brooklyn. I always feel on edge

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bvince01 t1_j53oj1o wrote

Double parked cars and paper plates should be towed without hesitation too

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atyppo t1_j53s2fb wrote

Replying to Turbulent_Link1738 (#1,412,992)

When's the last time you saw NYPD doing any sort of traffic enforcement that isn't easy parking tickets? I honestly can't remember. While I'd love those changes too, let's start with the simple stuff first.

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Scroticus- t1_j53ttvu wrote

sigh typical gentrifier. In my work as a community hip hop violence interruptor we find the concept of "rules" and "laws" as fundamentally a symptom of whiteness (oppression) and therefore problematic. This is a well established premise.

Calling for police action/enforcement under virtually all scenarios is deeply troubling. When you call for police enforcement of these racist and arbitrary prohibitions... what you are really doing... really what you are literally doing is holding racism's dick while he pees on your face and chuckles. That's what you do when you support fascism.

First, you must accept that this is Brooklyn, and we run red lights. I know in your cozy world of white heteronormativity "traffic safety", "respectful behavior" and being "considerate to others" are things the patriarchy has brainwashed you into valuing. But it's quite clear these are abstractions invented as tools of oppression. And let's call it what it is that's some white people shit. Straight up. I just pissed in my building's elevator WHILE MAKING EYE CONTACT WITH A LITTLE ABUELA. This is the jungle, square. Get fucking used to it. Marcy Projects representin'! Anyways.

Before we call for enforcement we must be cognizant of why these individuals are running the red light. In my doctoral thesis "Examining the 5 Stages of Hustlin: a Hip Hop Anthology'" I learned that many gang affiliated individuals of color, especially Crips, may find red lights triggering due to its association with their rival gang the Bloods. Their behavior could be explained and therefore excused by their previous trauma. These are all incredibly important considerations when we are evaluating policies.

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langenoirx t1_j53ukp8 wrote

Brooklyn, the tri-state area

There, I fixed it for you.

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totalreidmove t1_j53unj1 wrote

Replying to Mattna-da (#1,411,252)

The same people tasked with dealing with literal hardened criminals on the daily, and are issued a gun with the hope that they don’t kill without reason, but to possibly save their own lives. Yes, those police. When was the last time you feared for your life at your workplace? Bring on the downvotes. Every public service job - firefighter, cops, teachers - deserves double the salary of what they make currently.

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Roadie66 t1_j53w07h wrote

Traffic laws basically dont exist in the Bronx, its a complete free for all.

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yuriydee t1_j53wt69 wrote

Replying to Mattna-da (#1,411,252)

Damn I still remember watching some live streams of shitload of police following and barricading the protesters marching up 8th ave while at the exact same time Soho was getting looted all over the place. Like someone surely gave them the order just let all that shit go right?

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CantSeeShit t1_j54bwjl wrote

Replying to co_matic (#1,409,470)

Savory Deli on Amsterdam and 151st.

All fucken day every day there is a box truck double parked there and it's not the same truck. No way those people getting that many deliveries all day.

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CantSeeShit t1_j54cb2t wrote

Replying to Ed_Zeppelin (#1,412,935)

In all fairness, sometimes the lights are quick as shit. I'll be going well under the speed limit at like 20 mph and below and I'm just too heavy to make the yellow. When the lights are timed I can predict and start my stop while the light is still green but sometimes it'll happen to fast for me to stop especially when it's wet and the road is rough.

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Refreshingpudding t1_j553jnh wrote

Replying to totalreidmove (#1,413,801)

They make more than soldiers in a literal warzone

Ps the top cop killer precovid is traffic accidents

Post covid... Well it's COVID

Lots of professions with higher fatalities than cops

They do get trained to be scared of everything thought

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HEIMDVLLR t1_j553vmu wrote

Replying to qdpb (#1,412,909)

I started with pedestrians, because we’re all pedestrians first.

After you get out of the car, you have to walk to your destination. After you exit the subway station or get off the bus, you have to walk to your destination. Same with cyclist, they have to get off the bike at some point and walk to their destination.

Vehicles are not your enemy. If you think so, take that goofy shit to r/fuckcars.

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qdpb t1_j55kqxr wrote

Replying to HEIMDVLLR (#1,416,118)

Thanks man, next can you tell us about how a bill becomes law?

This is a thread about cars not stopping at red lights. Each and every one of these cars is my personal fucking enemy.

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HEIMDVLLR t1_j55p6a4 wrote

Replying to qdpb (#1,417,122)

You just want to argue. My original point is, no one give a fuck about the rules. Which is placing all of US in danger. Just because I own a car doesn’t make me immune from getting hit.

As a driver, I can get t-boned by a car running a red light. I also could hit someone crossing against the light.

Same applies when I park my car and I’m walking to my destination, I have to pay attention while crossing the street, because I can get hit too!

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DawgsWorld t1_j55yn1s wrote

Replying to Turbulent_Link1738 (#1,413,099)

You have it backwards and apparently don't understand Broken Windows policing. It was proven that if you enforce minor infractions, the big ones just occur much less or not at all. That's the whole basis of the theory, and it worked extremely well. Nowhere was this more evident than with turnstile jumpers. People who committed serious crimes thought nothing of fare-beating, but law enforcement was there to arrest them. More often than not, these perps had laundry lists of priors. The "minor shit" you refer to will escalate to major shit if it's not stopped. If there were issues with Broken Windows, they could have been addressed. I think most of us would agree a white person who urinates in public should be treated the same way as a person of color committing the same violation.

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qdpb t1_j56k25e wrote

Replying to HEIMDVLLR (#1,417,412)

It's not that owning a car doesn't make you immune from getting hit; it's me not owning a car does make me immune from hitting someone with it. You're saying no one gives a fuck about the rules, but the consequences of a driver not giving a fuck are so much more dire than anyone else not giving a fuck, that by wrapping drivers into the category of "no one", you're excusing them. And they don't have the excuse, they're the only ones with a power of unleashing 2 tons of weight on someone else.

It doesn't matter if I don't pay attention when crossing the street, running the red in your car is still exactly as wrong. You can get hit too, but you're a driver, of course you can get hit, the problem is you're putting other people in danger!

Or perhaps I just don't understand what you mean by "no one gives a fuck about the rules". Why do you think it's relevant to the problem of cars running the red lights?

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HEIMDVLLR t1_j56ry1b wrote

Replying to qdpb (#1,419,383)

Crossing against the light puts you and others in danger as well. You’re forcing a driver to either hit you or swerve and hit someone else.

Ask any driver how they respond when a pedestrian steps into the street or a cyclist blows a red light.

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qdpb t1_j575dbp wrote

Replying to HEIMDVLLR (#1,419,883)

I'm sure this happens, but again, you're trying to equate two things are are not comparable. About 300 people die each year in New York from cars, and about 0 people die each year in New York from jaywalking. These are different things, on a different scale.

I'm not saying jaywalking is good, of course we should all look both ways and everything. I'm saying it is nothing compared to running red lights in a car. One has nothing to do with another, and one of them is a serious offense, while the other one is a nuissance.

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HEIMDVLLR t1_j57922m wrote

Replying to qdpb (#1,420,776)

They are comparable, because they have a cause and effect on each other. Cars swerving to avoid hitting pedestrians put others in danger. Running across traffic to catch a bus before it pulls off is dangerous. Staring at your phone while crossing the street is dangerous.

Jaywalking have caused accidents, even cyclists complain about pedestrians stepping off the curb into the bike lane and vice-versa, cyclist blowing red lights and hitting pedestrians crossing with the right-of-way.

The point is, everyone has to do better and not be an asshole toward others commuting.

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qdpb t1_j57ctas wrote

Replying to HEIMDVLLR (#1,421,022)

Here we go again. They don't have a strong cause and effect on each other. Drivers don't kill 300 New Yorkers a year because of jaywalking or pedestrians staring at the phones.

I don't know if you're doing a bit at this point, but it's frankly offensive how over and over you're trying to assign the responsibility for driving responsibly to the people who are not in the car.

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HEIMDVLLR t1_j57o2lj wrote

Replying to qdpb (#1,421,265)

The difference between us is, I drive and know what I see every time I’m driving. You would be surprised how often drivers have to react to inconsiderate pedestrians.

People have this attitude that if they get hit, they can sue. Problem is, you can’t guarantee you will survive the hit.

I have to blow my horn at pedestrians crossing against the light. The person taking their time crossing after the light is flashing to don’t cross, don’t care to look up because they’re distracted by their phone.

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qdpb t1_j57u1l4 wrote

Replying to HEIMDVLLR (#1,421,950)

I get what you see when you're driving. I just don't understand why that's relevant. Do you think the behavior you see allows you to run red lights? Or why are you recounting these anecdotes?

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user_joined_just_now t1_j58hemd wrote

Replying to Mattna-da (#1,411,252)

It's really funny how the progressives on this sub oscillate between "police don't reduce crime and crime went down when they went on strike" and "police not doing their job is the reason why people are breaking the law so much".

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