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The_LSD_Soundsystem t1_j30smn7 wrote

Reply to comment by HEIMDVLLR in Traffic study by former head of NYC DOT reveals what he says is ultimate cause of congestion by HEIMDVLLR

It’s the transplants that have the “fuck cars” mentality in the nyc subs. Many of us who grew up here know that many people in the outer boroughs NEED a car in order to get anything done because there’s no trains the further out you go and also the buses are sparse at night.

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dajman22 t1_j32shno wrote

My 45 min commute would be 2.5-3 hours without a car. I’ve done it a few times when my car was in the shop and it’s such a waste of time

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jadedaid t1_j334ys1 wrote

You can get by without cars if you live in wburg/greenpoint/LIC/most of manhattan/etc. But if you're out in Bayridge and need to go about your day (or heaven forbid, visit family elsewhere in the outer boroughs) then doing it without a car is a hard sell.

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gamelord12 t1_j33s1gn wrote

I can't imagine what needs to happen to a person to make car free living in Bay Ridge a hard sell.

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09-24-11 t1_j34bxs6 wrote

There becomes a point where you need a car in outer borough. But this article is specifically talking about midtown gridlock. Driving from Howard Beach to midtown for work 5 days a week and dealing with the headache of traffic? Id have to guess that there is a break even between car expenses and paying more to live closer to work.

Of course comes down to individual situation and preferences.

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The_LSD_Soundsystem t1_j34j71o wrote

What people sometimes do if they live really far out there is to drive to an train stop in the outer borough and take that the rest of the way. It really depends on how far your bus route is and how much of a pain it is to take it. Obviously this varies based on where you live.

If someone lives near the LIRR, it makes sense to just take that to midtown instead of the subway too.

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09-24-11 t1_j34u4k2 wrote

Definitely. I can support that. I’m a car owner and try to be limited in use myself. People concerned about the environment and contributing to congregation have the right idea at heart but it’s not always pragmatic for all. Fuck cars people are an overreaction.

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