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Moist-Department2012 t1_j32xvpw wrote

Reply to comment by pseudochef93 in NYC Hospitals Start Moving Sick Babies, Diverting Ambulances as Nurse Strike Looms by drpvn

Patients first

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Cascando-5273 t1_j332pv9 wrote

Patients are best served by nurses who are not stressed out and overworked. If hospital administrators create conditions which result in exhausted and burnt out nurses, who's really to blame?

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lkroa t1_j3338xp wrote

do you think these hospitals are putting the patients first?

one of these striking hospitals admits patients to the literally hallway. imagine you’re sick and you go to the hospital and they stick you in the hallway where you can’t get any rest or privacy because people are walking up and down the halls all day and night. this is not the emergency room either, this is the inpatient units. this has been an ongoing problem since at least 2016. how is appropriate for executives to be paying themselves millions, but allowing patients to be in the hallway for the better part of a decade instead of expanding actual beds.

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cmc t1_j335zmv wrote

Why is it "patients first" when nurses request fair compensation but not when hospital administrators pay themselves millions without even setting eyes on a patient? What makes them worth so much more when all they're doing is logistics?

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cmc t1_j336hi9 wrote

Ohhhh, a troll. Bless your heart.

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Moist-Department2012 t1_j3373gd wrote

Oh so I’m a “troll” because you don’t agree with my opinion. I can careless what you think, troll

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TranquilSeaOtter t1_j338xku wrote

You know the hospitals will not be left without nurses right? Travel nurses are a thing and will be hired to replace the staff as they strike. Do you understand this?

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Moist-Department2012 t1_j3396eo wrote

Good, hire the travel nurses full time then if the “real” ones go on strike

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Moist-Department2012 t1_j33et5b wrote

And if they DID hire me, I wouldn’t go on STRIKE

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TranquilSeaOtter t1_j33ja8a wrote

So you would accept getting paid like shit and overworked with far too many patients assigned to you than what is even remotely manageable? Why would you do that to your patients?

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Moist-Department2012 t1_j33ntos wrote

Sounds like you are scared to work hard

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TranquilSeaOtter t1_j33ons8 wrote

Sounds like you don't understand how the world works.

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Moist-Department2012 t1_j33oxus wrote

Sounds like you need to leave me alone!

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TranquilSeaOtter t1_j33phfr wrote

Not when you spout comments made from ignorance into the world. Do you think a patient to nurse ratio of 10:1 is reasonable and a nurse just needs to not be afraid of hard work to care for 10 patients?

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TrainlikeWayne t1_j35c70b wrote

Hospital administrators are putting lives at risks by not paying nurses what they’re worth and by not maintaining safe staffing. I used to work at one of the top hospitals in the country and holding in my pee and not being able to take a lunch break because of short staffing was a daily occurrence. You obviously have no clue what you’re talking about. Also, don’t call nurses lazy the administrators are both lazy and greedy.

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Moist-Department2012 t1_j33gq45 wrote

Any nurse that goes on strike should be immediately terminated

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cmc t1_j33iblh wrote

It's adorable to watch you try to rile me up. Enjoy the rest of your Thursday.

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Moist-Department2012 t1_j33iu1b wrote

w/e you say troll, I hope your nearest hospital has zero nurses, don’t slip and fall now …..

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coolwithstuff t1_j344f8q wrote

The truly intellectually pathetic reality of your position is that we are in a massive nursing labor crisis because the position isn’t compensated enough for the work.

Not supporting nurses trying to make their jobs better and more economically desirable is actually the thing that will lead to fewer and fewer of the nurses we as a society need.

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pseudochef93 t1_j32ya7p wrote

Well yes always but if a statement has to made to get the message across then so be it. I doubt this strike will last more than a day before a deal is reached.

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actualtext t1_j33cge5 wrote

What do you propose nurses do to have their needs met? What’s your solution?

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Moist-Department2012 t1_j33dfo0 wrote

Negotiate, WHILE TAKING CARE OF THE PATIENT, it’s called “multi tasking “

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actualtext t1_j33vhm6 wrote

And if the hospital continues to stonewall and not negotiate in good faith?

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Moist-Department2012 t1_j33vmx6 wrote

Then get a new career

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actualtext t1_j33wo2e wrote

So you're saying the nurses should stop working essentially? Kind of like they'd do in a strike?

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Moist-Department2012 t1_j33xkej wrote

No, I’m saying they should leave nursing completely and let those who care about the PATIENTS keep there jobs.

If they want to strike, go apply at Starbucks or Amazon!

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actualtext t1_j340rwv wrote

I definitely don't agree with this point of view. People shouldn't have to leave a profession simply because their employer doesn't want to meet or compromise on employee demands for real concerns and issues afflicting them.

Imo private unions should be completely be able to strike. Public unions I'm a bit conflicted on. I feel like employee rights and pay issues should be codified into law and should be given to all public employees.

But these aren't public employees, these are private employees and in your point of view it seems that the employer should have all say and that makes no sense to me. Completely tilts negotiating one way in favor of the employer. Why would it be OK for Starbucks or Amazon employees to strike but not nurses? Patients arent being impacted. Alternative arrangements are being made by the hospitals should they not reach an agreement. Other hospitals exist too. It's being handled as professionally as possible and they've been negotiating for a long time as well.

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lkroa t1_j34o3zy wrote

they’ve been attempting to negotiate for months with hospital administrators who haven’t been negotiating. what do you expect them to do? negotiate forever accomplishing nothing

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IGOMHN2 t1_j34uc4g wrote

Fuck patients - hospital executives

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LVucci t1_j35evsc wrote

Go be a nurse and take care of those patients since you want to act so high and mighty.

You’re bootlicking execs and they want people with mindsets like yours so they can continue to take advantage of you for pennies on the dollar.

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