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k1lk1 t1_j68lcu5 wrote

Telehealth is a boutique novelty, the benefits to seeing someone in person are important. Getting depressed kids off devices is half the solution, frankly.

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iRedditAlreadyyy t1_j68rebn wrote

As someone who does telehealth therapy, I 100% disagree. The benefit is there.

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blackfire932 t1_j68xusp wrote

As someone who has had telehealth therapy and knows people who have, it can feel too distant and impersonal. It doesn’t work for everyone…

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iRedditAlreadyyy t1_j68ydqc wrote

That’s more to do with the therapist than the method of communication. A good therapist doesn’t make someone feel distant or impersonal.

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blackfire932 t1_j68yvy4 wrote

Ahh so I only had bad therapists, not that the method of staring into a phone camera and watching a video of a person didn’t feel personal and connecting for me and some people I know…

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iRedditAlreadyyy t1_j68zyys wrote

Then in that case you would benefit for in person support. But I’m confused why I’m getting replies pointing out disadvantages of something clearly beneficial

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HashtagDadWatts t1_j69aics wrote

Loads of online commenters believe that if something merely makes things better but not perfect, then it shouldn't be done. It's part of the lazy brand of contrarianism that's so popular these days.

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sternfan1523 t1_j6f9jso wrote

People on here think staying home forever is a normal thing so can’t relate

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Bradaigh t1_j68z5wc wrote

That's true for both in person and telehealth therapy though. The tele aspect creates another layer of distance to break through. It's really great that it works for you, but you can't extrapolate that to make blanket statements about its benefits.

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k1lk1 t1_j68s1fs wrote

The question is not "is there benefit", the question is "are we helping kids as much as we can, and getting value for our tax dollars" and the answer will be absolutely not.

Despite how young people think it's normal and natural for everything to be done online, it's really not, and that's why everyone's so mentally unwell these days. Doubling down by saying "hey, no need to get off your ass and go get help, simply facetime a therapist!" is unhelpful.

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azn_dude1 t1_j68td39 wrote

You need to back up your claims with sources, otherwise you're getting into "video games cause violence" territory

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iRedditAlreadyyy t1_j68simz wrote

So then tell me, someone who has a weekly Zoom call with a therapist, what about it is unhelpful.

I have personal experience with this setup, you have a belief surrounding this setup. So prove me, a benefactor, wrong with what I said……..

What is in person care giving that online visitation isn’t.

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AnacharsisIV t1_j68tnr4 wrote

The notion isn't that it's "unhelpful", but less helpful than seeing a therapist in-person. It's kind of like, we want the kids to eat food in school, and serving up a plate of fish sticks isn't unhelpful but it's not as good for them as a balanced salad or something.

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lifestyle_deathstyle t1_j68uhga wrote

This is absurd. Telehealth therapy is real and balanced therapy, the benefits don’t go away or become diminished just because it’s done on a screen.

(Edited for clearer communication)

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iRedditAlreadyyy t1_j68xjt5 wrote

So I’ll ask again, what am I missing IN PERSON that I’m not getting over an internet call.

I’m asking you to back up your claims with examples.

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Pool_Shark t1_j68xm3j wrote

We have this service that will help millions of kids but because a better version exists you would prefer the kids get nothing? Got it.

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SirJoeffer t1_j69gqjd wrote

Therapy is invaluable to those who need it. And while I agree that you do get more out of it in in-person sessions that is just not a realistic option in this case. It has been incredibly hard for me to find an in-person therapist in the city and I have insurance, am able to make time for an appointment during a weekday, and am able to pay out of pocket costs. I doubt even half of students in the city have all that. This program is going to help people, full stop.

And there’s obviously a massive difference between using a device to go to therapy and using one to doomscroll on twitter/reddit or play video games. Its just the most boomer shit ever to hear this news and immediately go to ‘phone bad make kid big sad’

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my_metrocard t1_j699d13 wrote

My kid has been seeing his therapist online since covid. He has still been tremendously helpful.

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GoRangers5 t1_j68pw7p wrote

>Getting depressed kids off devices is half the solution, frankly.

100% this, Instagram and other social media is contributing to the spike in teen suicide rate, humans need face to face contact.

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SirJoeffer t1_j69hcn0 wrote

Okay so you see no difference between a child using an ipad access social media and a child using an ipad to have a zoom call with a therapist where they can talk through their problems with a real person??

I see nothing to connect the adverse effects of social media on teens and increased telehealth access for teens besides you needing a phone for both. What’s next? We need to make appointments in person too because phone bad?

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GoRangers5 t1_j69m4q9 wrote

>Okay so you see no difference between a child using an ipad access social media and a child using an ipad to have a zoom call with a therapist where they can talk through their problems with a real person??

How on earth did you draw that conclusion? The only point I was making was that an in-person session is better than a zoom session.

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SirJoeffer t1_j69oaoy wrote

>Getting depressed kids off devices is half the solution, frankly.

>100% this, Instagram and other social media is contributing to the spike in teen suicide rate, humans need face to face contact.

It’s really giving ‘phone bad’

Maybe re read it

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Pushed-pencil718 t1_j68whzu wrote

Agreed. Being in a person’s presence is totally different.

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ICantThinkOfANameBud t1_j68zf0g wrote

It depends completely on the person receiving the help. I do virtual mental health visits because I feel weird being in a room with a practical stranger speaking about why I want to kill myself, but virtual visits remove that issue for me.

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light_rapid t1_j69n8hh wrote

Another very subtle thing one may not consider, is that to complement your point of the virtual visit, you as a client are potentially in a much more comfortable space that you are familiar with. For some, the process of commuting to see a specialist can be stressful, in contrast to doing a video call where you can prepare yourself at your comfort level, environment(s), and conditions.

Obviously different strokes and preferences for different folks, though giving people options versus outright-nothing are steps in the right direction!

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laurasaurus5 t1_j69x1vy wrote

On that note, students might not have their own room or private quiet space at home where they can feel safe discussing personal issues. I haven't read the article, but hopefully the schools can provide an area for this.

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laurasaurus5 t1_j69w4om wrote

I've had positive experiences with remote therapy! But I've also worked with young kids who would definitely have trouble with the format! Hopefully the remote model will prove successful enough to secure funding for more flexible options.

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octodanger t1_j6e0f3q wrote

The data suggests that they are equivalent except for special circumstances (eg, eating disorder treatment). There are certainly individual preferences though.

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