Submitted by shakhboz11 t3_10kk3kr in nyc
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shakhboz11 OP t1_j5r4bw3 wrote
really? I thought that they can possibly get it down by 2 points instead of 6
BKEDDIE82 t1_j5r4i3h wrote
Outside the city, they sometimes knock it down. In the city, never heard of it.
Spirited_Touch6898 t1_j5r8457 wrote
I had it once downgraded by two points, ie from 32 over to 20+ over, by a lawyer, that was over 10 years ago.
Most of the time it’s either guilty or dismissed in NYC.
People on reddit don’t deserve your apology over a speeding ticket, few of them drive, and most are carelessly run red lights on their bikes/scooters or ride against traffic, jaywalk into moving traffic.
BKEDDIE82 t1_j5rd9ef wrote
I always experienced either guilty or dismissed. This is the first time I've heard it getting downgraded in NYC.
Spirited_Touch6898 t1_j5ri000 wrote
If you are close to the cutoff, they can argue that the gun might be off by a mile or two if it was not recently inspected, i’m guessing. I didn’t go myself so don’t know what the lawyer said, but hey lowered from 8 to 6 points.
BKEDDIE82 t1_j5rjut4 wrote
Glad you got it knocked down.
Grass8989 t1_j5r51bj wrote
Gotta hope the cop doesn’t show up. There’s no pleaing down tickets in nyc.
shakhboz11 OP t1_j5r54pi wrote
how likely is it for them not to show up?
Grass8989 t1_j5r5b59 wrote
Not likely unless they quit/got fired. But you never know. Sometimes attorneys can work magic tho.
shakhboz11 OP t1_j5r5tii wrote
I hear how some people continue to reschedule court, have the ticket on trial for years until the cop just doesn't show up, does that actually work?
Sk8ngWST t1_j5rcb79 wrote
U can only reschedule 2 times so thats like 2 years (hopefully) and the next you have to go personally and pay bond if it's only allowed for ur case of course. I did a 90 on a 65 coming down from jersey tho, ny statie pulled me over, had to hire an attorney, he managed to convert it to a non moving violation so 0 points nice but i still ended up spending like $900 for the whole thing. Lesson learned, but here in nyc and boroughs i heard they are more strict and if you show up w/out evidence which ur case dont need one because u fccd up bad then they fcckng guilty you and make u pay a bunch of $ still plus ur suspension fee lol pray up btw was it worth it at least fckng up likw that?
shakhboz11 OP t1_j5rck8z wrote
thought they would be more easy on me since its my first offense, tried sucking up to the office but forgot i live in brooklyn
Sk8ngWST t1_j5rdhwr wrote
Bro what i learned is that the city needs $, then they are sending all them wolves to make them make $, r.n them wolves been getting and harasing ppl for the most little thing. It's scary out there tbh
seafoodgodddd t1_j5r61is wrote
Honestly man just pay the ticket at this point lmao
shakhboz11 OP t1_j5r660n wrote
its not about the money, idc how much I have to pay. I just don't want to carry 6 points, pay the driver assessment shit NYC has, and have my insurance spike up yk.
seafoodgodddd t1_j5r6osc wrote
I totally forgot about the points, I haven't fucked around in a car in so long lol my bad
SolitaryMarmot t1_j5r5lvm wrote
Zero or close to zero. Particularly if it was a camera ticket. If you take a defensive driving class you can remove points from your license after the fact. They won't plead down to A non moving violation in NYC
shakhboz11 OP t1_j5r6ltk wrote
> defensive driving class
i thought those classes just subtract them from the suspension count, not off your record
SolitaryMarmot t1_j5r786d wrote
I think it's just 4 points from the total, so you can use it to drop out of suspension? You have to take it from an approved vendor though most of them are online and only cost like $25
shakhboz11 OP t1_j5r7n1o wrote
if i take it as soon as i pay the ticket, can i avoid the driver responsibility assement fee
SSumair t1_j5raz81 wrote
I live in NYC and unfortunately been down this road many times before, so I can confirm with certainty that if it was written by NYPD highway patrol, there is almost no possibility of them dismissing a speeding ticket or cop not showing up. Their sole purpose on planet earth is to write speeding tickets and appear at the TVB to substantiate them.
You could of been Jesus himself, with the holy cross sticking out the back window, if they pegged you for speeding, the cop would still robotically write you a summons and the judge will dutifully uphold it. And there is no plea bargain in NYC traffic court, it’s simply guilty or not guilty.
I wouldn’t bother with a lawyer either, that’s a waste of money in my experience. All they do is postpone the hearing as much as they can, with the hopes that the cop doesn’t show up, which doesn’t work anymore since they are now required to do so.
Barring something tragic happening to the cop preventing him from showing up (unlikely) at the TVB, you’re going to end up having to pay the fine.
shakhboz11 OP t1_j5rba64 wrote
what if the cop was just a patrol cop, was on local roads, will that change anything?
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SSumair t1_j5rd4fk wrote
You might stand a better chance if it was a typical NYPD patrol officer, as they are probably less experienced with such specialized violations and in testifying on said violation at court, as a dedicated highway patrol cop.
I never really rolled the dice a patrol cop issued speeding ticket before, however, from what I understand, to be able to issue speeding violations in NYC, the cops must certify that he/she can “visually estimate” a vehicle’s speed of travel and operating a radar/laser measuring device. So if a patrol cop did indeed issued the summon, I assume he had the proper credentials.
Sk8ngWST t1_j5rd31h wrote
Excusey my ignorance but how do u know they are "required" to show up to court? What are ur sources because i'd also like to know that way i know what i'm dealing with next time i get pulled over
SSumair t1_j5rdh7e wrote
A couple of years ago a few officers got into trouble for fixing tickets for their friends and relatives, since then, it’s mandatory for the issuing cop to show up in court or risk a potential reprimand.
https://nypost.com/2011/10/28/16-cops-arraigned-in-nypd-tix-fix-scandal/
Sk8ngWST t1_j5rhjgq wrote
Dmnnn, but weird i had a cell phone ticket a couple of years ago and the cop never showed up, so i got dismissed
SSumair t1_j5ri99m wrote
Good for you!
You got extremely lucky, maybe the cop got shot or fired for violating someone’s civil rights or something because they have two chances to NOT show up in court before the judge officially dismisses any summons and even that’s still at their discretion.
BKEDDIE82 t1_j5r48fr wrote
Zero chance of reduction. Dismissed will vary on the mood of the judge and how well the attorney knows him.