carmansam123 t1_j5l7h17 wrote on January 23, 2023 at 8:13 PM

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NGL sounds a little bitter. I think a lot of those industry would help their employees become very well off if they paid OT. Like legally making an extra six-figure or two instead of the accepted fraud from places like the MTA / NYPD / LIRR workers.

I could be wrong but outside of finance, a lot of salaried employees who might work 60 hour weeks, have an equal number of weeks where they're thumb twiddling for barely 20 hours of work + other great benefits.

You also learn as you grow in your career on how to establish boundaries. Covid 19 and the influx of remote work helped a lot of people create a culture of this.

djn24 t1_j5l96es wrote on January 23, 2023 at 8:23 PM

>NGL sounds a little bitter.

How? When someone says "I make $150K on Wall Street but work 80 hours per week", you can quickly do the math and find out their hourly rate for their work is in the same ballpark as most other professionals. They just work a ton of overtime. That makes that profession so much less desirable for me. I feel almost the exact opposite of bitter: I feel bad for them if that's how many hours they have to work and that's all it gets them.

I have no clue where you're going with the rest of this. Most people aim to work 40 hours or less and then do whatever they want with the rest of their time. Some people apparently make similar hourly rates as the rest of us but give up most of the rest of their week to make more money.

carmansam123 t1_j5lg2yx wrote on January 23, 2023 at 9:06 PM

I'm saying IB are outliers. They're abused early but they get bonuses during that abuse at the end of the year. and if they survive 2-4 years, they work normal hours or even less for multiple millions of dollars every year.

I would never take 80 hours of week of abuse but an occasion 50-60 hours week for decent pay has it's value. Especially knowing i'll have 20 hour work weeks. And once you're established it's easier to say no to the 50 hour requests, which is why job hiring can be ageist.

It's easy to get a 21 year old to accept terrible working conditions. I remember thinking early in my career that just because I don't have kids doesn't means I'm not entitled to protecting my personal time.