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tootsie404 t1_j4qtkyt wrote

>The agreement is between the New York City Department of Homeless Services and the Hotel Association for as much as $55,000 per migrant, according to The New York Post, which first reported the deal.

Hotels, including the Row NYC Hotel on 8th Avenue, will become home to hundreds of migrants; the four-star hotel which usually charges $500 a night is now one of many considered an emergency shelter for migrants.

what a fucking racket.

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tamere2k t1_j4r93xo wrote

The Row might have charged $500 on new years eve but absolutely no where close to that regularly. It's such misleading data to put what their rates were like decades ago.

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sr71Girthbird t1_j4tn4rx wrote

Exactly. Certainly a conundrum any way around it. Easier to provide services when you get a bunch of people in need to stay in one place, so hotels are obvious choices. Not like many people would be champing at the bit to have them living nextdoor either. Price tag aside there probably aren't many other options besides repurposing unused office space or something like that, and the groundwork and pushback (from other tenants in such a theoretical building) around that sort of fix likely makes it a bad option as well.

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AnacharsisIV t1_j4sqim8 wrote

FYI the Row used to be the Milford Plaza, it's old and musty and like a step above a Motel 6. The place is far from a luxury hotel and I'm honestly baffled by whomever gave them four stars.

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Swagyolodemon t1_j4t7mh0 wrote

Hotel stars is more a checklist thing than actual review on the quality of accommodations

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phoenixmatrix t1_j4rde3u wrote

On one hand its definitely a racket/shifting public money to deepen some people's pockets.

On the other hand doing something like this in a time sensitive manner does limit people's options quite significantly, especially while trying not to have the neighbors losing their shit over it.

For sure some people are getting rich out of this. But I doubt even the best mayor ever would be able to do SIGNIFICANTLY better. Housing someone isn't that expensive. Housing someone in a time sensitive manner and maintaining the place (especially if its getting wrecked) is a whole other story.

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FartSniffingDog t1_j4rl49z wrote

$55,000/year = $150.68/night

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seyerly16 t1_j4slywe wrote

The payment is for 6 months of housing not a year, so it’s actually $300 a night.

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FartSniffingDog t1_j4sm9mp wrote

“For as much as” means max as opposed to $500/Night now

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ZinnRider t1_j4r6pov wrote

Love the NY Post coverage. Anytime there’s a situation in which people who need to be helped are actually being helped it’s always a matter of money. And they’ll always be there to make sure you know how much it costs. Riles up that indignation. How much?. “I don’t want my tax dollars going to those people.”

They’re in business to divide and conquer the 99%. With stories just like these.

Notice there’s never a story calling into focus the obscene budget of the NYPD. Or the fact that the CEO of energy monopoly Con Ed takes in over $10million a year (for what?). Or that the NY Public Library has their “budget” constrained constantly while the high crimes of the financial looters go on pillaging without pause? Or that some scumbag Wall St hedge fund guy will make in a week what most people here on Reddit won’t see in a year.

But yeah. Let’s just keep beating up on the needy, the poor, the maligned and marginalized. The good ole American Way. Or more likely according to the truth, as Lou Reed put it, “Give me your poor and tired, I’ll piss in them. That’s what the Statue of Bigotry says.”

I’m not saying that anytime one of these “deals” are made there isn’t the hint of corruption present.

But be careful. If you’re really concerned about corruption the NY Post, the ultimate propaganda mouthpiece of the ruling elite and the cops, is gonna misdirect you every time.

Practically everything they print is for the purpose of keeping you in Fear. So that you’re more easily manipulated and subsumed under their control. They choose an angle for a story that, instead of eliciting focused indignation for an economic system that is a failure in providing a safeguard for people who genuinely need it, makes you turn your indignation to the people themselves.

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deathhand OP t1_j4rdd51 wrote

But this isn't the Post?

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Informal_Egg_3907 t1_j4rwb0n wrote

its the pavlovian progressive reflex when they hear (another) story that makes them look dumb

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Beetlejuice_hero t1_j4s2wgc wrote

Do you expect to be taken seriously when you post on an alt account? What are you cowardly hiding on your main account?

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TrumpLicksBalls00 t1_j4rrzin wrote

Before typing word salad, take a literal moment to realize this isn’t the NY Post

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ZinnRider t1_j4rw3tk wrote

The moment to take is yours, petty bouge.

The reference to NY Post is right there in the person’s post that I was responding to.

Seems you’re a little too social media-conditioned to scroll through things rather than take the time to actually read.

Keep scrolling though.

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casicua t1_j4r9bdo wrote

But it’s gonna trickle down! Any day now bro, I swear. We just need to give CEOs more money bro. It’s gonna trickle down next week!

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ZinnRider t1_j4rxok2 wrote

Lots of temporarily embarrassed millionaire here, comrade…

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MandatoryDissent55 t1_j4r3pz9 wrote

Anybody want to go on Zillow and look up apartments that cost $9,100/mo and tell me why the fuck our taxes should be paying for that?

That's a high-end two bedroom apartment in Midtown, for each person... Who isn't even supposed to be here.

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thebusiness7 t1_j4slini wrote

The US could have used the money to set up “safe zones” in industrial zones within Mexico (and LatAm) to ensure worker safety and the people would have stayed there instead of coming north. They mainly come for safety / to work.

Before people start saying “but it’s their problem”, the US has a horrible track record of destroying and destabilizing their nations: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor , along with the C I A nurturing the cartels in the 1980s onward to create a supply chain so they could profit: https://oig.justice.gov/sites/default/files/archive/special/9712/ch01p1.htm

At this stage it’s evident there’s a corrupt faction at the top (intel agencies with no oversight) of people who DON’T work for the public, yet take public tax dollars, and the public still has to foot the bill for the shit resulting from the destabilization of other countries.

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phoenixmatrix t1_j4rds8y wrote

I'm not defending the decision by any mean, but that would be apple and orange, assuming they're also feeding those people, maintaining the place, dealing with edge cases where folks will be wrecking it up, security, etc. If they could just rent a bunch of market place apartments and dump them in there they'd do that.

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MeatballMadness t1_j4se24e wrote

Ok, let's assume $7500. That still gets you a high-end two bedroom and gives you $1600 for groceries and other expenses.

Either way it's robbery.

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dproma t1_j4qlhqy wrote

“The agreement is between the New York City Department of Homeless Services and the Hotel Association for as much as $55,000 per migrant”

I’d gladly take 220K for two migrants to take over my apartment for a year while I use that as a down payment for a house.

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throws_rocks_at_cars t1_j4qlwg5 wrote

55k is entirely too much money for one person. That’s a life-changing amount of money for like 85% of Americans.

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dproma t1_j4qsd03 wrote

And that’s only for 6 months lmaooo

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MandatoryDissent55 t1_j4r36ve wrote

That's $9,000 a month.

What are you guys paying for your own rent?

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somekindafuzz t1_j4s7o3h wrote

$1600 for a 1br in the Bronx…cuz that’s what I feel Like I can afford 😞

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MandatoryDissent55 t1_j4s84zt wrote

Do you know where I can get a fake ID from Guatemala?

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somekindafuzz t1_j4s8i81 wrote

I doubt there are rules requiring ID. You lost it on the way. Just show up 👍

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MandatoryDissent55 t1_j4s8w7b wrote

I'm not sure I could fully commit to the offensive accent looking like a tall white man.

Maybe we should just send them back and not pay for luxury suites.

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BloodyFlandre t1_j4qzx0x wrote

Welcome to politics where citizens get screwed.

It's your money paying for this and you voted for it.

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Clarityman t1_j4sr5aj wrote

I didn't vote for him. My senses told him not too.

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thebusiness7 t1_j4smfn0 wrote

Contractors that are buddies with the politicians are probably pocketing most of it

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thebusiness7 t1_j4smcis wrote

Guaranteed there are political cronies / contractors that are pocketing half of that

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jjd13001 t1_j4x5be6 wrote

I’m about to fly to Mexico, cross the border and tell them I’m a migrant and would like a bus ticket to NYC and a hotel room

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EsKayNYC t1_j4qopzq wrote

It’s back to the 1980s when NYC turned beautiful pre-war hotels into SROs for homeless, destroying blocks and neighborhoods, and killing businesses in the area. Tourism dollars sustain NYC. We specially need tourism now with low office-space occupancy.

The migrant crisis is a real one. They need our help, but not with knee-jerk and short-sighted thinking. I’m not qualified to offer a solution, but seemingly neither is Mr. Mayor.

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[deleted] t1_j4qq86l wrote

How are hotel occupancy rates? Not being snide, I’m genuinely curious. I agree that we need tourism but last I heard hotels were still suffering with low occupancy post COVID. I’d prefer this over hotels shutting down.

(not to mention I kind of feel like comparing this to housing the homeless does a disservice to incoming immigrants. There are endemic problems with mental health etc among homeless populations, a lot of these migrants are just going to be people looking for a better life. Way more families, for one)

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EsKayNYC t1_j4qu8pc wrote

All good points! Again, I’m not an expert on this topic but remember the blight of the last such plan. Hotel occupancy seems to be on a rebound, at least in Manhattan. Major events are mostly back or starting to come back that previously put a strain on affordable hotel options. If the city actually starts enforcing AirBNB regulations, hotel occupancy demand will increase with all the illegal AirBNB housing going back into the long-term rental pool. A double win.

I guess a middle-ground option will be to find hotels and motels in the outskirts of the city and in Long Island and Northern suburbs. There are hotels and motels in greater financial needs there. The state needs to carry its share of the burden which is unfairly put on NYC by other states.

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Pool_Shark t1_j4s1hi4 wrote

The mayor of NYC doesn’t have justification over hotels in the suburbs.

Deblasio already turned a lot of hotels in the outer boros into homeless shelters so my guess is they needed to find other areas of the city to exploit

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Evening_Presence_927 t1_j4r4vxo wrote

> Again, I’m not an expert on this topic but remember the blight of the last such plan

So why the fuck should we listen to you if you aren’t an expert?

Do you even live in the city?

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protonmail_throwaway t1_j4qvthd wrote

But they are homeless…

Just because that one crazy guy that screams at you in the park is also homeless doesn’t make these immigrants any less homeless. It’s not a word used to describe one particular type of displaced person who makes the newspaper or shits on the sidewalk.

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[deleted] t1_j4qxh19 wrote

All I’m saying is that these arriving immigrants are a different population from the homeless in the 80s that were housed in pre-war hotels. Homeless shelters don’t have a good reputation even among the homeless population itself let alone among neighbors.

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protonmail_throwaway t1_j4qyr4s wrote

A lot of different shelters, and a lot of different people living in them. I just don’t see them as categorically all that different in this regard.

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Turtle_Shaft t1_j4qvui7 wrote

The hotels that were turned into sros were already at crackhouse levels before they started to get converted.

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Bad_Skater t1_j4s0ccw wrote

People actually FROM this city are barley hanging on most of the time. Why not throw a couple of bucks of the 275m to my government owned housing so they can fix my fucking ceiling which is leaking and falling apart.

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drpvn t1_j4qi1ab wrote

We should be using less expensive hotels that are far from the city center.

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Grass8989 t1_j4qia36 wrote

We wouldn’t want to deprive tourists of the authentic New York experience.

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sternfan1523 t1_j4rnfmw wrote

It makes zero sense why we aren’t housing them in those old hotels out by the airports that are likely mostly used for people to fuck their mistresses in. They deserve housing but why should it be in the middle of the richest area of the world

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SaintFrancesco t1_j4sz4c7 wrote

Moved here from SF before the pandemic and they had just built a brand new homeless shelter on prime waterfront land on the Embarcadero near the Ferry Building. It made absolutely no sense to put it there. What are these mayors doing?

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Historical_Pair3057 t1_j4v2no1 wrote

We are. Spring Hill hotel near La Guardia and other hotels in the Queens, Brooklyn amd Vronx were filled in Aug, Sep and Oct. They started using hotels in Manhattan as a last resort, when the buses kept coming in Oct, Nov, Dec...

Source: I volunteer at Penn Station, receiving migrants when they step off the bus and facilitate their placement

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Pool_Shark t1_j4s1q2o wrote

It’s too late, those have already been turned into homeless shelters by deblasio

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phuz t1_j4t8c9p wrote

They are, Not sure what the rate is in the city but in the outer boroughs they are offering $130/night.

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P0stNutClarity t1_j4shqid wrote

Lmfao subways falling apart, taxes high af, crime, and this is what our money is going to. I can see why folks flee for states with no income tax.

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jewishseeker t1_j4rb0lc wrote

We have zero moral obligation towards the citizens of other countries when we're not even taking care of our own people..

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NewYorker0 t1_j4tei5x wrote

You can’t reason with these people. They will call anyone and everyone racist for anything and everything you talk about.

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IsayNigel t1_j4tht9m wrote

I mean more often than not the situation that drive the people from their home countries are directly the result of things we do.

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Jaaawsh t1_j4tnv13 wrote

We? ‘We’ are not corporations or the military industrial complex that lobby for the things you speak of. ‘We’ are not the corrupt officials who run these other countries.

‘We’ are people who are being squeezed by bigger and bigger taxes, fees, inflation, rent, healthcare costs all while not having wages commensurately increase. ‘We’ are the 60% of people who live paycheck-to-paycheck one emergency away from homelessness. All the while ‘we’ watch people who are not even citizens get placed in hotels in some of the most sought-after areas to live in, making sure their needs are taken care of like food and healthcare. And then when ‘we’ get mad about this ‘we’ have to listen to morally-righteous-virtue-signaling-bleeding-hearts who advocate for conflicting policy goals; chastise us for being responsible for things a handful of rich and influential people make decisions about and how if we don’t agree with them that it is our moral responsibility to take care of the entire developing and undeveloped world’s peoples then it’s because we’re cold-hearted or racist or closeminded-maga-worshippers.

No. Just no. I don’t support hardly anything Abbot or Desantis support, and the transfer of migrants to cities like NY is obviously a cynical political ploy but seems like this needed to happen to make people in living in the blue-bubbles that are metro areas start to realize that perhaps looser immigration doesn’t mix with their other policy goals.

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IsayNigel t1_j4tq8jb wrote

Lmao I work a far more thankless job that requires far more personal sacrifice than you do, so spare me about “how hard it is” I live it every day. These migrants have to deal with unimaginable hardships after our policy choices fuck up their entire countries so they walk thousands of miles, and you’re mad they get to stay in a hotel for a few months because why, you deserve to live in mid town for some reason? I feel like they’d rather probably be in their home countries instead of in a brand new place where they may or may not speak the language and most people hate them. But I’m sorry you don’t get to live in a hotel or whatever.

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Jaaawsh t1_j4trilu wrote

I don’t hate them, I emphasize with them but that doesn’t mean I’m going to virtue signal and advocate martyrdom because of policy choices made by lobbyists and the politicians they have in their pocket along with the corrupt officials in other countries.

The fact is, the economically progress policies and programs many people would like to see, will never be realized with our current immigration policies. Well, unless we find a way to effortlessly create goods and provide services out of thin air for an infinite amount of people.

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dagobahnmi t1_j4vklev wrote

Just funding and supporting multinational drug cartels, overthrowing and assassinating democratically elected leaders and politicians and installing psycho dictators who torture and murder their citizens, sponsoring and coordinating with ultra-violent militias to control popular political sentiment, and maybe a little light military intervention from time to time.

If you don’t think the US (as a state actor) bears a substantial amount of responsibility for the current state of Latin America, I’d suggest that you may not be as well informed as you might assume. Really don’t mean to be a dick here, but the broad history of US intervention in LatAm is not especially debatable, and easily researched.

Edit: the now deleted (lol) comment said “last I checked we aren’t dropping bombs on South America”, or something to that effect (I think that’s a literal quote but if not it was very close).

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jewishseeker t1_j4r7ndp wrote

The hardworking taxpaying American citizens are consistently screwed. How about putting homeless veterans in luxury hotels and sending these migrants back to their homes?

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AnotherUselessPoster t1_j4ras85 wrote

Higher than starting pay for the vast majority of city employees.

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York_Villain t1_j4rqfeo wrote

Alternate title.... "Struggling hotels receive $275 million subsidy."

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ctindel t1_j4tib3i wrote

Yeah or "Migrant crisis used as cover for corporate welfare of wealthy donors"

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mrmrmrj t1_j4rkwar wrote

Amazon jobs are bad but paying private hotels is ok? This is madness.

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xaiur t1_j4rnbz6 wrote

Why are migrants being funneled into expensive, crowded cities?

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spicytoastaficionado t1_j4vvs6x wrote

Because Adams talked a whole lot of shit about NYC welcoming them for the cheap PR when small border towns in TX were overwhelmed.

You can only hold so many press conferences running you mouth until red state governors call your bluff.

And for context, NYC is "overwhelmed" because of the amount of migrants that have come here in the past six months, which is equivalent to approx. 5 days along the border.

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dproma t1_j4sic9k wrote

Why would the government want to use cheaper hotels? The higher the cost, the bigger slice they get. This is corruption in plain sight lol

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pseudochef93 t1_j4rdh0n wrote

I want my tax dollars to fund social services and a public health system that doesn’t empty my wallet for basic medical care instead of funding stuff for people who cry that we’re not doing anything for them when they’re getting a roof over their head, food that they turn down, and crying that they have no work when they’re in the neediest and most basic menial job plentiful city on earth when they have no right any of this. But you know, if your buddies with the Jersey ex-cop, I guess you can get away with it.

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Jaaawsh t1_j4tkzbf wrote

We will never be able to implement the kind of social programs and safety net that I and most people who aren’t hardcore conservatives would like to see; if we do not fix our immigration system (and no, Democratic Socialists, Koch libertarians, and limousine-nimby-liberals… that does not mean simply making it easier for anyone who wants to, to be able to legally come)

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Majestic-Director199 t1_j4s4e6h wrote

Where can an average New Yorker migrate to be spoiled with 9K a month from tax payer’s money? Asking for friend.

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LunacyNow t1_j4sqwgn wrote

Wouldn't it be cheaper to fly these people back to the origin countries and let them do their asylum request from there?

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Jaaawsh t1_j4tjy7a wrote

This was what the MPP tried to do, except keep them in Mexico because that wasn’t against international law like sending them back to their home countries would technically be. Biden ended that program though, of course.

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2ohny t1_j4syupk wrote

Not a single brain cell to be seen on or near Manhattan island.

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NewYorker0 t1_j4te4d1 wrote

NYPD, DOE and others all had their budget cut and we are paying $55,000 a year to house people who never paid a fucking dime in taxes. We have poor infrastructure, corrupt and inefficient school system and ever rising cost of living. Who is this city for? Why don’t more people vote? Why do we only have 20% voter turnout?

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Best_Program_3365 t1_j4tzo53 wrote

Unfortunately, most who don’t take part in the voting process either don’t care enough to vote for their own reasons, or aren’t educated enough to have an opinion to vote for.

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Dramatic_Toe_4346 t1_j4r7j91 wrote

$55,000 for 6 months? That’s more than most NYers make in a year. I’m all for assisting those in need but there doesn’t seem to be much oversight on how the money is being spent. Looks like they are just throwing money at the problem. What happens to these people after 6 months? They are still in “illegal” status with no work authorization so do they get put out into the streets after 6 months? If NYC can’t handle this now when it’s still the low season for migration, then wait until the Spring and early Sumner when even more migrants cross the border.

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grazfest96 t1_j4sijg2 wrote

Lol, what a disaster

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GravityIsVerySerious t1_j4t0b8x wrote

What the fuck? This is unconscionable. That is so much money. That’s an entire work forces’ raises the City just gave away. This can’t be real.

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Obstinate_Turnip t1_j4so8mk wrote

I wonder what it would cost New Yorkers to pay Venezuelans to stay in Venezuela, say? I'm guessing it would be a lot less than we're paying to house them here?

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earlymountainrain t1_j4sktbh wrote

If they stay in the same hotel long enough will they get tenancy rights?

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2ohny t1_j4syhvg wrote

By law after 90 days (in nyc) you’re considered a resident. So we must speak LESS about this.

This is a bailout!

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gaylonelymillenial t1_j4svbpj wrote

Can’t even afford a place here. This is frustrating. All while watching his hotel friends make a crazy amount of money on this deal. Any info on if any of these hotel owners donated to the mayor or anything like that? This just seems insane.

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2ohny t1_j4sz0h9 wrote

They are bailing these motherfuckers out and we need to find out who and why!

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DrinkYoDamnJuice t1_j4tr6nt wrote

San Franciscan here 👋 - I can say with full confidence that this will be a disaster.

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NewYorker0 t1_j4tcpzd wrote

NYC defunded all major departments including schools, libraries, parks and police and for what?

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tamere2k t1_j4r8hiy wrote

Lol to the article saying that the Row usually charged $500 a night. They begged to be picked for this because they've fallen apart. There is no way they'd agree to it if they were still getting close to that.

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juniperaza t1_j4ser0s wrote

The amount of empty motels all over the outer boroughs that would charge way less …

Why not set them up with an apartment for a year, a job, and a stipend for food and transportation until they can establish themselves??

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nychuman t1_j513h2h wrote

>Why not set them up with an apartment for a year, a job, and a stipend for food and transportation until they can establish themselves??

Pretty insane how this would actually be the cheaper option in the long run…

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juniperaza t1_j51qf96 wrote

Right! They could even throw in classes for them to attend at a community college or even a regular CUNY so they can properly establish themselves. There’s so many ideas they could have gone with.

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jessicat7474 t1_j4snv0m wrote

I wonder which of his cronies is making out like a bandit.

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againblahisnothere t1_j4sqaut wrote

Can someone please come in and write out the meaning of sanctuary city again? Cause last I heard everything negative is just Republican talking points.

Meanwhile that’s money that could have gone to the homeless here

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bree718 t1_j4tgmg6 wrote

I’d like some monies too

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mak1028summet t1_j4tqgxz wrote

Most nyc union workers are suffering from high inflation and years of stagnant raises. Most contracts are up and city us saying they are broke. This money could have been spent on the hero workers who keep this city going City is on a bad path and pocking up sped

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jeffsayno t1_j4r7ac9 wrote

If we just them them all to a local college with room and board, it'd be cheaper and they hopefully get trained in something

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bittoxic00 t1_j4rmnsh wrote

One college in upstate New York is closing this year, cazenovia college and I’m sure the dorms are nice

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[deleted] t1_j4txriz wrote

This really aint right. Send these mfs back

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jumbod666 t1_j4tzkf5 wrote

Keep voting for the same one party rule and expecting things to change is nuts

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BacchusIsKing t1_j4upbgd wrote

I work near The Watson on 57th St., which is another of the migrant hotels. I think they also set them up with e-bikes (and maybe a delivery job?), because there are like a hundred bikes parked out front in a giant row.

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spicytoastaficionado t1_j4w7ia6 wrote

Hundreds of millions for hotels, including midtown rooms.

Nearly $10 billion for a "sanctuary facility" in Brooklyn.

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....But of course we have to cut almost $35 million from the city's libraries.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_j4rgydg wrote

>The agreement is between the New York City Department of Homeless Services and the Hotel Association for as much as $55,000 per migrant, according to The New York Post, which first reported the deal.

For a private room with a private bathroom?

That expensive as fuck, but on an emergency situation, that could've been worse.

In contrast, the city pays on a regular basis (not emergency) practically the same amount every year for each homeless shelter bed packed in a giant room, with shared bathroom facilities and little security and privacy. If you haven't seem how that looks like, do a Google image search.

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RetroZelda t1_j4t40um wrote

wonder how many people will try to blend in with the migrants to get free* room and board

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MehdiM3 t1_j4vbarp wrote

Sleep joe sleepy Adam

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2ohny t1_j4sxrpy wrote

Wtf is this, Adam?

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Caribbean_Ed718 t1_j4xaspr wrote

What about the homeless New Yorkers who needs housing?

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rkkkb t1_j5k6bg4 wrote

Hey my condo can easily hold 4 person and i would gladly take that 220,000 for the next 6 month.

Me and my family can stay at either of our parents place.

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werdnak84 t1_j534q0v wrote

Nice! More crime!

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... wait a moment...

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ifallsmn218 t1_j4tlsfp wrote

This is on the right-wing governors for sending these migrants here. This is purely for fundraising & out of spite. It has nothing to do with ‘these people want to go to NYC’. That’s bs. Most of these migrants have family who work in agricultural settings in the US already, and I doubt they’re milking cows or digging potatoes in Times Square.

If the goal is for this migrant resettlement to be a success then you don’t send them to the most expensive city in America. You send them to the cheapest cities closest to where they entered the country, like Tulsa, Little Rock, Paducah, Baton Rouge, Springfield, Wichita, Missoula, Des Moines, Rapid City, Sioux Falls, Fargo, Grand Forks and so on. Low cost of living and plenty of cheap land to develop more affordable housing if need be.

These red states have been sending their criminals, homeless and addicts to CA & NY for decades while nobody has said anything. And we pay for them.

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spicytoastaficionado t1_j4w549s wrote

>It has nothing to do with ‘these people want to go to NYC’. That’s bs. Most of these migrants have family who work in agricultural settings in the US already, and I doubt they’re milking cows or digging potatoes in Times Square.

Nobody is being bussed here against their will.

Also, you can find articles detailing how migrants are thankful to be bussed to friendlier jurisdictions like D.C. and NYC over staying in Texas border towns.

Migrants in El Paso are not being set up in hotels and having their expenses paid for.

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>If the goal is for this migrant resettlement to be a success then you don’t send them to the most expensive city in America.

For migrant resettlement to be a success, it can't be built off of economic migrants exploiting the asylum process, so the system is already destined for failure.

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>You send them to the cheapest cities closest to where they entered the country, like Tulsa, Little Rock, Paducah, Baton Rouge, Springfield, Wichita, Missoula, Des Moines, Rapid City, Sioux Falls, Fargo, Grand Forks and so on.

Once migrants are released from federal custody, they can't be forced to go anywhere.

Migrants are offered free bus trips to NYC and are taking them. Perhaps if the mayor of Tulsa holds multiple press conferences saying they'll take migrants as Adams did for over a year, the governor of TX will route some Greyhounds there.

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>These red states have been sending their criminals, homeless and addicts to CA & NY for decades while nobody has said anything

NYC has had multiple scandals with bussing homeless people out of the city.

Also, look at the stats for homelessness in CA. Most of them are long-time residents (10+ years) of the state.

And your conspiracy theory of NY criminals being red-state transplants is not backed by evidence.

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Kind-Base6336 t1_j4ty3jb wrote

To all of you complaining, NYC is an international city so it’s not only going to cater to Americans. If you want that, the south or even Jersey is suitable for you.

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deathhand OP t1_j4qn0h9 wrote

Lol I like the down votes.

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drpvn t1_j4qtt59 wrote

Why?

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Unusual-Solid3435 t1_j4rxhiu wrote

Unpopular opinion here: it's pretty on-par with how much Boston pays to house the homeless (it's a lot). It ain't cheap but it's cheaper than them on the streets causing havoc.

Maybe we could work them down a bit but this is the cost of housing the homeless, it's expensive. It would be better if we as a country started to build more housing in general and crash the housing market but everybody uses their house as a retirement plan so it won't happen. Until then these stories are only going to be more and more extreme.

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Jaaawsh t1_j4tkgtz wrote

Except.. the homeless are (mostly) citizens, whereas most asylum seekers don’t actually even end up qualifying for asylum……

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Unusual-Solid3435 t1_j4uz71s wrote

Do I care? No, my wife and her family isn't a citizen and wasn't for a long time. They need to be taken care of sir!

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Jaaawsh t1_j4xabsu wrote

Are they LPRs?

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Unusual-Solid3435 t1_j4xnluy wrote

No, they are super super fucked legally because they crossed the Rio Grande without papers (while my wife was 2). Because of that they will never attain citizenship, they are stuck in America for the rest of their lives. The only possible way for them to attain citizenship is if they go back to Mexico and stay out of the US for 10 years, which is untenable with their health. All the while their daughter was lucky enough to receive and keep her DACA long enough to find a US citizen to fall in love with (basically the only path to citizenship for DACA recipients). Her parents aren't so lucky just because they don't have the paper that says they simply overstayed their visa.

We make good money and pay a lot of taxes but this will always weigh us down.

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agpc t1_j4skaa6 wrote

In the long run these migrants will help the city because an economy is made from people. Sure is fucking frustrating that middle class is priced out though.

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