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StoopitTrader t1_ja5tdc2 wrote

My guess would be 12k at the lowest. The lease company is betting it will be worth at least 14k. Can you buy a 3 year old corolla now for less than that? What I would be thinking about if I were you is what this payment and the guaranteed loss of 16k does to your budget over 3 years? You mention paying cash for a car later. Do you make enough so you will still pile up cash in parallel to paying this lease? Maybe this is the only path for you to have a decent car. But if you do this, at least map out your future budget and see where this fits, if it fits

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Jeom049 OP t1_ja5wqys wrote

This car is not for me, My girl's father is paying for it. She does not have a car and needs one asap.

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Jeom049 OP t1_ja5wzi1 wrote

That's my point Part of me believes I will be upside down. I strongly believe everything will crash. especially with Gold going up like crazy in the past couple of months. Plus If I purchase I would be tied to a contract with a high interest rate. where as if I were to keep the lease I could purchase at the end at a way lower rate If the market tanks... Still I want to get my girl a way better car in 3 years from now. The only reason why I'm considering leasing is because I fear an 2023 LE corolla with 30-40k miles will probably be bought by dealers or auction around 12-13k like you mentioned to be sold at 14-16k (dealers gotta have that 1-2k mark up most of the time lol)

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StoopitTrader t1_ja5yzsi wrote

Financial decisions should be made based on future planning not on fear. Fear is driving your decision here. Nobody knows for sure whether a crash will definitely happen and if so how bad it will be. It cannot be predicted. You plan around your budget, your future and don't try to predict what will happen. It's like timing the market, it seldom works.

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Jeom049 OP t1_ja5zfvm wrote

buying a new car is a bad financial decision. But is probably a bad one as well to buy a used car thats 2 or 3k less than a new one, Which is the case for all fairly-new used cars right now

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StoopitTrader t1_ja61l6a wrote

A new car is generally not recommended but if you buy cars for the long term (keep them 10-15 years) I don't see it buying new as always the worst choice. The goal of most on this sub is financial freedom. Making payments forever, car after car, always paying interest doesn't fit with this plan. It's all numbers. If you bought new, financed even for 5 years (I'd recommend less) and then kept the car for 15 years you'd get back that front end depreciation as you owned the car without payments for a number of years. And being a corolla, likely without problems until you hit year 10 or so. It's all a balance. As I've said a few times now, have a plan is really what's most important. Where do you want to be in 3 years with cars, with income, with everything? Does this fit? This is the question you need to answer.

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Jeom049 OP t1_ja620c4 wrote

To be honest, I feel like I'm worrying to much, I don't think I would care much about 2-4 k loss in a car a few years from now

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StoopitTrader t1_ja7hloh wrote

What I often see is people who think their time window is 3 years like you are thinking here, it turns out to be 4 or even 5, or longer. It happened to me with a house we bought. We figured it was temporary and we'd upgrade, we stayed 12 years. You are imagining the worst case but not thinking of the best case. You should think of BOTH. Plan for the worst, but hope for the best. You don't mention the current income or potential future income in this scenario. All of this matters in personal finance. And again, fear should not drive a decision, planning should.

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