Mashtatoes t1_jeadofd wrote
It’s an extra 6 hours of your time for those four days of commute. (Might be a little more in total if your current commute on that 5th day is shorter). Assuming a 40 hour workweek, that’s a 15% increase in hours for a 42% pay increase (minus whatever you pay in gas). That seems worth it to me if you can put up with the drive.
Early_University_907 t1_jeaflrc wrote
This. Plus, if OP is young and this will help toward long-term career earning potential it’s even more the right move.
mrdannyg21 t1_jed90nt wrote
That was my first thought too - giving up that much freedom and the extra costs may or may not be worth it for the income increase, but every salary raise sets the expectation for future salary raises. If OP has more than 5-10 working years left (which seems likely, since they’re living with their parents), this $18k/year raise will likely translate to hundreds of thousands in higher lifetime earnings.
forgerator t1_jecx9sc wrote
This. Yes the sacrifice is there in terms of work life balance but with the bump in salary, future growth prospects and salary bumps will take into account this new salary as the baseline.
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tallham t1_jebsy8u wrote
I believe Early_Uni isn't saying the pay is good for career, they're saying if the job change is a good progression in OPs chosen career that adds non-monetary worth to the change as well.
Edit to make it clear this is my interpretation/opinion on his comment, not an absolute
travbart t1_jebutxz wrote
I think both things can be true. If you apply for a job where the application requires salary history, having a higher past salary can show a potential employer that you had $X worth of responsibilities at your last job. Not saying it' a great metric but it's there.
tallham t1_jec2y5e wrote
TIL that is something a potential employer may actually ask for, it's not something I've ever had requested during a job application or interview.
MTG_Stuffies t1_jeczcrm wrote
It's more that companies ask what your current salary is, and like to base their offer on that, and that information is becoming more and more readily available to employers, so lying works less.
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Shit practice, and sad reality.
hawkiron t1_jebmjk6 wrote
Not just gas, wear and tear. 11.5k miles per year assuming 250 working days (250x43).
EDIT: By the IRS mileage rebate standards which include gasoline and damage, it would be $7532 (65.5c/mile). This is based on "an annual study of the fixed and variable costs of operating an automobile." Of course, every situation is unique.
jburcher11 t1_jeby7fa wrote
I came here for this was simply going to state that the government has it pretty nailed down what a mile is worth. Good ole travel and per diem rates, ah, I miss those days.
But yeah, just use those rates to see if its worth it. YMMV
Triscuitmeniscus t1_jecrjf9 wrote
I don’t think the Fed mileage reimbursement rates are directly applicable like that. Whenever I’ve done the math on my used Mazda3 I end up with something like less than half the Fed rate. Maybe if I was buying a new $50k car every 5 years and getting $10k for a trade in it would work out that way, but I’ve always felt the reimbursement rates were set that way as a gift to employees who get mileage reimbursed or use it as a deduction. I’m saying that as someone who is regularly reimbursed for using my vehicle.
munchies777 t1_jed7tap wrote
Yeah, it’s definitely way high if you have a cheaper used car. By those mileage rates, even after gas and maintenance I would have depreciated my used car 4 times over by now.
hawkiron t1_jeerl4g wrote
Certainly it's based on worst case scenarios. Though even if you cut in half it's still a chunk of change worth considering. Keep in mind 11.5k miles at the median gas price ($3.50/g) by itself is ~$1350 with a car doing 30MPG. 11.5k miles is also a couple of oil changes, potential increase in insurance costs, and you're going to see a lot of general failures of parts after a few years.
4runner01 t1_jeagi9c wrote
Those are good points.
Euphoric-Blue-59 t1_jedzuuh wrote
you are not including gas, maintenance, tires, CAR, insurance, food cuz youll eat out more often.. ... $$$ that eats into that.
Manders4444 t1_jec3l05 wrote
Don't forget the mental anguish. It'll be fine at first, then miserable to an unbelievable degree. Maybe moving closer to new job could be in your future?
Endaar_F t1_jec5f5w wrote
From a 45 minute commute...!?!
Manders4444 t1_jec5wip wrote
45 Min each direction, eventually that starts to cut into your life. I had done it for years. Wait until adverse weather or traffic problems make that drive an hour and a half. It gets frustrating after a while.
Endaar_F t1_jec6wa9 wrote
I did a 75 minute drive for a few years. Mornings didn't bother me but the evening was tough. I wouldn't call it mental anguish though.
I've done a 35-45 minute drive for the past 20 years. Maybe it bothers me once a month, probably less. Most of the time it's perfect.
I like driving. I have a nice car. I blast music. It's almost cathartic.
45 minutes is probably the cutoff for a lot of people as to what is and isn't reasonable. But it is certainly not enough to pass on a significant raise at a young age.
ShopEmpress t1_jecai1b wrote
Mines 75 right now and I just listen to audiobooks to pass the time. Its great!
Seattle0718 t1_jedllhl wrote
You commute 12 hours a week? That’s genuinely crazy
ShopEmpress t1_jee91xc wrote
I do. It's not ideal and I'm looking for a place closer to work but this is how the dice fell and I'm making it work.
Boshly t1_jecgsv1 wrote
The other issue is that a lot of people think a long commute has to involve heavy traffic and stop and go.
I love listening to music and books and find I’m much more relaxed when I get home.
When I have a bad day when I work from home and walk from my home office to my living room later there is no buffer. Those issue fade after a commute to decompress.
DinkleButtstein23 t1_jed207o wrote
Not possible in an hour plus of stop and go traffic. It requires constant focus and attention.
Boshly t1_jeekupu wrote
Did you read my first paragraph 😜
Not all commutes involve stop and go.
WelcomeToOzz t1_jec96fd wrote
Yeah, I did a 90 min each way for 4 years and it wasn’t that bad. My office is 45 min away now but I rarely go.
adamstempaccount t1_jedzjku wrote
What kind of car? I’m always curious what my fellow long-haul drivers find themselves behind the wheel of.
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AnEpicTaleOfNope t1_jedyqzx wrote
My commute is 1hr 15 mins and I've done it for many many years, every now and then traffic gets bad and it's 2 hours, but i don't mind. I like commuting, and i love my job and being in an office. Everyone is different and I guess OP has to work out what they are happy with.
Fkn1v1mem8 t1_jecflhy wrote
I’ve been driving 2 hours each way for 8 years. It sucks kinda sometimes but it’s not that bad
podcartfan t1_jecks50 wrote
There is no universe where 4 hours of commuting a day is “not that bad”. Hope it pays well.
Faringray t1_jecgm9f wrote
Wasn't there a thread recently where people talked about having commutes like this and thought the same, until COVID suddenly made them not have it. And they realized there life could have had hours more in each day and they missed it.
It's not just 2 hours more for a 24 hr period, its 2 hours more of awake time. So like 2/16.
maybe im thinking of wsj article.
Fkn1v1mem8 t1_jeckqhp wrote
That’s definitely probably true. But I will never make the kind of money I’m making with my current career anywhere else. I am the sole provider for my family so it is worth it to me. I use the time to listen to audiobooks or podcasts or be introspective
DinkleButtstein23 t1_jed50ob wrote
Yet the money isn't good enough to move closer to the job?
Fkn1v1mem8 t1_jedvtp1 wrote
It’s in the construction industry so the “job” is always moving. I can’t move closer to the job
According_Surround_7 t1_jedd3go wrote
Maybe they like where they live and their family is happy there. Not everything is about money.
Elegant-Row-2396 t1_jee5e12 wrote
You literally have another 50 percent of work on your day that’s costing you money, how is it “not that bad” that’s genuinely mental
Fkn1v1mem8 t1_jeehliv wrote
Because I’m a high school dropout making 150-180k per year
Elegant-Row-2396 t1_jeeiacb wrote
Congrats, doesn’t make it any less insane though.
Fkn1v1mem8 t1_jeeiln1 wrote
Definitely not for everyone
Elegant-Row-2396 t1_jeej6cr wrote
Did a hour and a half commute for a year it’s definitely not for me at any wage, fair play for doing it though.
tartymae t1_jecd38l wrote
45 minutes is a short commute many places on the west coast.
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Fragrant-Hamster-325 t1_jecomgk wrote
Such anguish. /s I do it everyday and it does suck but audiobooks and podcasts become your crutch. I learn a lot while driving so it’s not terrible.
OrneryTortoise t1_jeeffoh wrote
I don't know why you're being downvoted. Forty-give minutes is nothing to sneeze at. I used to do that. It sucks. Now I work from home, and even the 25-minute drive to my current employer's location makes me wonder how I ever did that every day. Commuting doesn't just cost time and money.
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