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AskMeAboutMyStalker t1_iyebf62 wrote

Reply to comment by ImpossibleJoke7456 in Job offer and counter-offer by peptalks93

somebody always pipes in with this & it makes me wonder what toxic ass places some of you work

if a company is making a counter offer, it's because they value the employee & don't want to see them go.

who has the time, energy & pettiness to make a counter & pay someone more just to torment them? it makes absolutely no sense.

I've been a manager for several years. when a software engineer I value puts in notice, I go in to hyperdrive trying to get a raise, bonus, promotion, whatever approved by my CEO to retain them.

I promise it has nothing to do w/ tormenting them, it's about keeping a good team together.

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Stylux t1_iyebswm wrote

>if a company is making a counter offer, it's because they value the employee & don't want to see them go.

Or it's because they can't afford to lose someone in the short term. The cost of replacement in my industry for an associate is $25k and the market is bad for employers right now.

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ImpossibleJoke7456 t1_iyf53up wrote

I wasn’t thinking about tormenting then. I was thinking that when times get tough and I have to pick between keeping someone that wants to stay and someone that tried to leave, all else being the same, I’m keeping the person that wants to be here. If money is the only thing keeping them here I’d also expect them to bring that up before hand.

I agree if you’re giving them a raise to stay and then just give them all the work others don’t want to do, that’s just going to push them out quicker and you gave them a raise for no reason.

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FunTripsToUS t1_iyf7squ wrote

> I've been a manager for several years. when a software engineer I value puts in notice, I go in to hyperdrive trying to get a raise, bonus, promotion, whatever approved by my CEO to retain them.

  1. What stopped you from doing that before they put in notice?
  2. When they did put in notice, was their reason salary?
  3. If so, why did they have to discover the gap and not you, the manager?
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