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jm7489 t1_iy933hl wrote

Theres so many reasons for this. There's the "grass is always greener" concept that hiring from outside is better than promoting from within because the company feels like they're "winning" and "stealing talent". Not to mention the idea of paying someone more to do the job they're already doing (because they've probably already taken over the responsibilities of the promotion they want) isn't palatable

There's the fact that for a million reasons workplaces have become much more impersonal

You used to have to dial a phone or show up in person to express interest in a job. Now applicants by the thousands are available to cherry pick from digitally

The people running most of these companies didn't start them, they've probably been there less than 10 years, they aren't personally invested in the worker the way someone who turned a small business into a megacorp over a 40 year career was

The largest businesses grow by becoming more efficient, which means trying to do the same things they already do while paying less salary

Truthfully businessses have been this way for a long time, its gen x and younger that recognized loyalty isn't worth shit, your employer is counting on you to be too complacent to leave, and the culture of job hopping every few years has only really taken hold en masse in the last 15 years


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chugtron t1_iy9gmqs wrote

Amazing what getting rid of golden handcuffs does to change how people treat their employer/employee relationship.


Kara-El t1_iy96zof wrote

I did this recently with a 25% pay jump and my last job still refuses to pay market rate even on new hires. They are having problems hiring my replacement…gee wonder why


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Captian_Kenai t1_iy9fk0m wrote

Your old coworkers are the reason the job market is so screwed up. Somewhere along the line we all became complacent pushovers and our employers caught onto it and realized they don’t need to give pay raises


JeffTek t1_iy9iws0 wrote

Victim blaming? On my reddit?

It's more common than you think.


Captian_Kenai t1_iy9k1bw wrote

They’re not victims.

They’re not forced into that job, and I’m sure 80-90% of them can easily leave and find work elsewhere. They’re just too scared to do so and they’re employer knows this. So why bother giving decent raises?

You never get anywhere in life being a pushover.


necrosythe t1_iy9dr4k wrote

Last place I left was WAY underpaying and quickly found themselves losing others after me in my small group. Next thing they know they're opening like 4 slots for that position and lost one of the two managers. And they couldn't fill a single spot for months.


foospork t1_iy9a1vr wrote

I’ve been in the industry for 40 years. It’s been like this for my entire career.

I was at a very good company in the 80s and 90s. It was an open secret there that the only way to get a raise was to leave for a year or so, and then come back. Lots of people did.

At this company, having a low employee number was kind of a thing. If you came back within 18 months, you got to keep your old employee number, your vesting, the number of days of PTO, your retirement fund employer contributions, etc. A lot of folks made sure to come back within 18 months.


ninjewz t1_iy9a8mp wrote

Yeah, I think most people would rather stick to one employer if they had the chance but there's almost no incentive to. Especially when you're younger and you have the whole acceleration of income thing where you're hoping to set you up for your middle aged years where you want probably want stability over jumping around. I'd rather sacrifice job stability in my 20's and 30's (when I'm more "desirable") so that I can find the right job later in life and be fairly compensated so I don't feel the need to move around.