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autoHQ OP t1_iybdlmg wrote

Reply to comment by micha8st in Roth IRA through Chase Bank? by autoHQ

What kind of fees are there since this would be a self managed account? I thought most brokers have gone to commission free trades?

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micha8st t1_iybeb0z wrote

the investments themselves are not fee free. Well, maybe if you buy straight stock they are. It would not surprise me to find out that the S&P 500 index fund JP Morgan would let you have would have more in internal fees than Vanguard or Schwab or Fidelity.

By the way, it may not be any easier to use Chase for investing... I have two different websites for Fidelity: one is my college savings account (529s) and the other is the 401k plan my employer provides. They're linked - I can log in to one and move back and forth between the two, but the UIs are very different, having different looks and feels.

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DeluxeXL t1_iybf3ao wrote

You can buy Blackrock/Fidelity/Schwab/Vanguard mutual funds and ETFs in a JPMC do-it-yourself account with no commissions or AUM fees.

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autoHQ OP t1_iybfxdm wrote

Interesting. I had thought that a roth IRA was identical to a regular investment account, just a limit on yearly contributions, and no tax if withdrawn after a certain age. Didn't know there were fees on top of it. I've bought and sold SPY stock on my regular trading account, but I haven't noticed any fees with it.

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micha8st t1_iybqigw wrote

Is your regular trading account hrough Chase/JP Morgan?

I don't know who charges fees and who doesn't. JP Morgan might.

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maedocc t1_iybrumd wrote

https://am.jpmorgan.com/us/en/asset-management/adv/products/jpmorgan-equity-index-fund-a-4812c1520#/performance

Here is the JPMorgan Equity Index Fund, which is designed to track the S&P 500.

Go down the page a bit, and you'll see (under the "Fees" subheading): "Gross expenses" and "Net expenses".

The net expenses are key... this fund's net expense ratio is 0.45%. What does that mean?:

>Expense ratios are typically represented as a percentage. An expense ratio of 0.2%, for example, means that for every $1,000 you invest in a fund, you’ll be paying $2 annually in operating expenses. These funds are taken out of your expenses over time, so you won’t be able to avoid paying them. Just as your returns are magnified because of compound interest, your expenses are as well, which is why there may be a big difference in earnings if you choose to invest in a fund with a high expense ratio.

By contrast, Vanguard's S&P 500 index fund has an expense ratio of: 0.03%.

That is what people mean when they talk about index funds with low expenses. Fidelity even has some funds without any fees at all.

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autoHQ OP t1_iybs0wt wrote

So what happens if I just put money into my Roth IRA and invest it all in SPY? Does that have any annual fees? I don't have to go with their in house S&P index fund, do I?

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