Submitted by tacticalsauce_actual t3_zzh2za in personalfinance
FourWayFork t1_j2bz9bd wrote
If you re-buy the same things 30 seconds after selling, that is a "wash sale". Please look up the wash sale rules. The bottom line is that if you sell (at a loss) and re-buy the "substantially identical" positions within 30 days, you can't deduct your loss. Rather, the loss gets added to the cost basis of your new position (and you can deduct that loss when you eventually sell the new position).
Now, let's pretend that you're not buying "substantially identical" positions, but are instead buying something that gives you exposure to the same thing (e.g. you're selling one crypto index fund and buying another crypto index fund). You are going to be able to deduct $3000 on your taxes this year and have $12000 to offset potential gains next year. To me, that doesn't at all feel like it would be worth $800 in fees.
The $800 in fees are probably going to basically equal what you're saving in taxes by getting to deduct the $3000. So it's not like you're walking away with any extra cash today. I just can't see that being worthwhile.
(And again, if you sell stuff at a loss and buy that identical position back, then you can't deduct it anyway.)
DingDongWhoDis t1_j2c0ggg wrote
> ...that is a "wash sale". Please look up the wash sale rules.
I don't think it applies to crypto at the moment?
But my question is, can we still swing tax loss harvesting at all for 2022? I think today was the deadline at 4pm eastern when the markets closed. But does that apply to crypto? I'd think getting it done tomorrow would be fine but only find sources with conflicting guidance.
DeluxeXL t1_j2c0tda wrote
Crypto are not yet considered securities by IRS. Wash sale rule only applies to securities.
tacticalsauce_actual OP t1_j2c3lyb wrote
My understanding is that wash sales don't apply to crypto as they are not currently considered securities.
Besides that, everything else you said is exactly what I was wondering.
I sort of make back the fees in April, but after that I'm not sure what I'm saving by doing this.
I'm not sure if I'm thinking of this properly: Let's say I pay the lowest rate of 15%.
If I make 15k next year, I would pay 2300 in taxes. So potentially, if I make 15k in profit, I'd avoid paying those taxes? Or is this incorrect?
icancook2 t1_j2c1j6p wrote
Wash sales don't apply to crypto or NFTs.
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