LFKhael t1_j6xngo1 wrote on February 2, 2023 at 4:56 PM

Reply to comment by UndercoverPhilly in Pro-Pedestrian/Biking City Council/Mayoral Candidates by Fattom23

What can they do?

PPD does not answer to the city. Being able to hand pick their doctors is a state policy. The city can't fire them. That goes to mandatory arbitration, and those arbiters do things like reinstate officers who send bestiality porn to their coworkers.

The only target that the city can touch is funding, and that's obviously not on the table.

UndercoverPhilly t1_j6xoq45 wrote on February 2, 2023 at 5:03 PM

The mayor appoints the police commissioner.

LFKhael t1_j6xpuym wrote on February 2, 2023 at 5:10 PM

And the city bargains with the FOP, Lodge 5, who do not answer to the city. McNesby does not answer to the city.

https://www.inquirer.com/news/police-fop-philadelphia-tshirt-badge-killing-20220316.html

> The Philadelphia Police Department said it will ask the city’s police union to stop selling a T-shirt bearing the department’s trademark badge logo next to a slogan that reads, “Heroes when we die, fired when we try.”

> The Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 5 began selling the shirts at $20 a pop on Monday — a week after Police Commissioner Danielle Outlaw announced the firing of an officer who fatally shot a 12-year-old boy in the back in South Philadelphia earlier this month.

UndercoverPhilly t1_j6xt0yf wrote on February 2, 2023 at 5:30 PM

Aside from the whole bicycle/pedestrian/car thing, who the police commissioner is makes a big difference, we saw that under the Nutter administration.

AbsentEmpire t1_j6ykemn wrote on February 2, 2023 at 8:20 PM

The city should demand free state police coverage from Harrisburg.

SaltPepperKetchup215 t1_j6xpwsa wrote on February 2, 2023 at 5:11 PM

Mayor hand picks commissioner. Commissioner serves at the pleasure of the mayor and can be fired or demoted at any time. Our commissioner is inept bc our mayor is inept.

Maybe mayoral candidates should get on that train and announce they’d fire our current police commish and have a plan on replacement.

That’s a campaign idea we can get behind

thefirststoryteller t1_j6ygu6i wrote on February 2, 2023 at 7:58 PM

I bet when we have a new mayor that Outlaw will “choose to spend time with family” and quit, then we get a new commissioner.

This allows candidates to say no or be non-committal but still get to pick their own commish.

LFKhael t1_j6xq92l wrote on February 2, 2023 at 5:13 PM

And a new commissioner doesn't change a single damn thing about what I pointed out.

The PPD does not answer to the city. The city cannot fire them.