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FormerHoagie t1_j9sm0l4 wrote

Reply to comment by Scumandvillany in 4 teens, 1 woman injured in shooting in Philadelphia's Strawberry Mansion section by bulbous_mongolian

The police can’t fix this. The police can only respond to events. Politicians can’t fix it either. Laws don’t matter in a lawless society. Trust me, that part of Philadelphia and many other areas are lawless. We basically depend on most people to be decent. Laws are fucking meaningless to people who don’t give a fuck.

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DrPremium t1_j9ubcue wrote

Unfortunately, whatever the solution is to our societal woes, it will neither be immediate nor simple. We're talking multiple generations, comprehensive type of change, the scope of which is approaching impossibility. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try, but we're just so, so deep in.

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FormerHoagie t1_j9ucrrm wrote

Yeah, I’m getting older now and those 55+ gated communities are starting to look pretty damn good. I’ve been struggling with the streets of Philadelphia for 30+ years (adult years) and it’s no longer fun. I imagine it’s nice if you can afford to live in a wealthy community but anything outside that can get pretty bleak at times. I understand why so many fled cities in the 70’s. It could happen again.

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FormerHoagie t1_j9snv0a wrote

The police are only as effective when the public work with them. There are a few bad cops but we have gotten to the point in society where we view cops as all bad and all working against us. I really hate that narrative. It’s constantly perpetuated on Reddit. I don’t know why anyone would want the job of being a cop and we expect them to fix the murder rate. There is zero logic in how society views law enforcement

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tansugaqueen t1_j9t9rc4 wrote

I don’t think people think all cops are bad, just frustration with soft strike, I do agree however why would anyone want to be a cop, pay isn’t that great especially outside of city

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mikebailey t1_j9sobwn wrote

You could try to argue that it’s disproportionate, but saying you have no idea where the anti-police sentiment is coming from is just bad faith. I personally even have cooperated with them before and they were goddamn insufferable.

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behls16 t1_j9tb7p6 wrote

Law enforcement is largely ineffective, financially inefficient, and operates with impunity. Shocking people don’t like it. If you still believe there are a “few” bad cops I don’t know where to go with you.

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FormerHoagie t1_j9trl42 wrote

Why don’t you become a cop? I’m serious., So many think they could do a better job but would never take the job.

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behls16 t1_j9twg91 wrote

I could do a better job but I make 50% more than a cop and have a job I love. Why would I become a pig? Just because I won’t become a cop doesn’t mean I can’t want a more efficient and effective service. I hate that my mechanic takes too long but it doesn’t mean I should become a mechanic.

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