Submitted by LP788 t3_116v73q in philadelphia
Maybe I’m a schmuck, but I went to pick someone up at the airport tonight and there were tons of cars parked along the shoulder where it clearly says no parking and directs people to the cell phone lot.
It seems like the city could get a ton of revenue by ticketing everyone that ignores the rules.
Like I said, maybe I’m the schmuck for following the rules, but why even have them if people so blatantly ignore them?
> Why do people still park on the road?
Because this area is filled with entitled pricks who do whatever they want and think rules are only suggestions that do not apply because it would inconvenience them.
Double park culture. As trivial as it may seem it’s the thing that I genuinely despise the most about this city.
I hate it more when they double park next to an open spot. It’s like park in it, doesn’t matter how fast you’ll be and don’t worry you’ll be able to pull back out into traffic.
People delivering Amazon packages out of their own cars who do this make me want to make my daily driver a bulldozer
This is the preferred method of double parking in the NE
Parking in the middle of Broad St and parking to block corners/pedestrian crosswalks without any consequence too. Philly is just lawless when it comes to parking.
I live on a street that feeds onto Girard, and every single morning there’s a car parked in the x’d out spot right at the corner and it makes pulling out safely nearly impossible because I simply can’t see what’s coming. It’s a safety issue as much as anything else.
And we have a city councilman who promotes driving to the corner store. It’s an actual joke at this point.
Same. I live on a small/in between block so there are no stop signs when I pull out and every day I just hold my breath and hope that someone sees my lights I flash before pulling out.
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The number of lifted pickups especially that park across the ADA cutouts is insane. Like I shouldn't have to backtrack a block to do an unnecessary crossing because I can't access the thing that is supposed to make the sidewalk accessible. Most of the time, it's both corners blocked like that. It's a nightmare to have any mobility issues in this city
As someone who drives around the city all day this is my least favorite driving habit. Just lyft drivers and delivery drivers double parking everywhere instead of pulling over. And that’s not counting all the regular people doing the same damn thing
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…and they’re proven right time and time again, when no consequences are dished out for their antisocial behavior. Which explains so much in Philadelphia.
Cottman ave at Frankford- cars are double parked where the lane narrows so essentially you have a turning lane and two lanes merging into one at an intersection. It’s maddening and ain’t shit being done about it
>think rules do not apply
They often don't. The city has abdicated even the most basic enforcement to the people, but the citizenry has neither the incentive nor the power to enforce rules either.
Rules without enforcement, whether taht enforcement is by government or by society, are rules that do not exist.
This is the translation I do in my head whenever I read someone’s shirt that says “No one likes us, we don’t care.”
I will say the last time I used the cell phone lot it was absolutely packed with maybe ~5 spaces open
This happens in Chicago and every other major city too. It’s not like it’s just a Philly thing.
Not really. Try this at LAX and the cops will be on your ass in seconds. One of the only positives of navigating that airport.
I’ve 100% seen this happen everytime I’ve been to O’Hare. Can’t say for sure about LAX
Agree that this happens at O'Hare. Doesn't excuse our shit though!
There’s not even space to do this at LAX! So that’s not even a good example. I was just in Seattle and they do the same thing as Philly
Same thing in ATL.
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The cell phone lot is super easy to use, people who park on the side of the road are morons.
Because this what they’ve “always done.” It’s the refrain of the native Philly asshole
They take pride in carrying on a tradition of selfishness. It's beyond immature, it's pathetic
These morons still think channel 10 is CBS.
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Because making the left turn into a spot and then backing out if it is just TOO HARD
Exactly this. Even tho there’s a light there, I rarely see people wait for it to turn.
Yeah that light is long and annoying. That would be my only reason for avoiding the cell phone lot, but I'd rather dick around on my phone while waiting in my car and not have to worry about the slim chance of getting ticketed or rear ended.
Because they are morons and they enjoy running their engines breathing fumes then darting into traffic to experience the high risk fun of near collisions. Not sarcasm.
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Not really, it takes like 15 minutes to get from the cell phone lot to the terminal, it’s very annoying.
My best guess is that people are simply too stupid to realize what it's for. Maybe if they changed the name to "FREE PASSENGER PICKUP WAITING LOT" then more people would utilize it. "Cell phone waiting lot" just isn't clear enough for people to understand what it's for, and that it's free.
I refuse to believe that people know what it's for and choose to park on the side of the road just to be assholes.
I’ve gotten past the time where I think the best of people.
As for your theory, I guess they could be more clear in the name of the lot. But it also says no parking (or stopping) right there.
People just don’t think rules apply.
Lived here my whole life, and only learned what that meant by this post. Give some room for ignorance. I do always mean to google it later, but as I’m the one driving, I can’t then and it slips my mind by the time I can.
ETA: thanks for the info for real tho
I have to admit I have parked in the no parking zone myself because I didn't even know that a cell phone lot was what I was supposed to use
This is not one of those situations. There are always so many people there that I’ve just kind of assumed that this is what the cell phone lot is, a section of road widened out for cars to idle in.
yeah i finally found out what it meant last year by googling it.
Cell Phone Lot is the name used at every airport I've ever been to though, so maybe it's some weird standardization thing.
People tend to not pick people up at the airport when they’re on vacation.
When you arrive at an airport and then go back to that airport, you’re never getting in the “Arriving” lane, so you won’t see any part of that infrastructure (other than when you’re leaving it and trying to figure out how to navigate a whole new city).
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Nah, dude. I think they just don't know (as is evidenced by a bunch of people commenting that they...didn't know). People here seem to want it to be because they are assholes. I guess it feels good to get big mad about something.
>It seems like the city could get a ton of revenue by ticketing everyone that ignores the rules.
This city is so fucking weird when it comes to ticketing and money. Yes, you're right, they could make a ton of cash. They could do a whole lot of things that would make life better for everyone.
And they simply choose not to.
Let PPA just drive down every five minutes with a plate scanner and mail people tickets. Maybe it's because they're essentially a state agency existing entirely for their own benefit but they're nothing if not motivated.
PPA is limited to center city by state law, if memory serves
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No. I’ve gotten tickets in the ne. They also patrol with the boot- you ever watch parking wars?
What do you mean by center city? Not disagreeing; I don't know the laws dictating what they can do at all, but I don't usually think of the Queen Village area as center city and I saw them there all the time when I lived there.
I thought for some reason they were only allowed to patrol in center city. I was wrong.
Ah. The rarest phrase on Reddit. "I was wrong." Hey, it happens. They actually operate a parking lot at PHL but I don't think they should legally give tickets the way I suggested. But maybe they should.
Ticketing people is PPA’s job. Also, PPA is a straight up cursed establishment.
Ticketing people is only PPA’s job on streets with parking meters, time limits, or ones that require a residential permit. They enforce their parking rules, not the city’s.
Anywhere else, it’s PPD.
That’s why you can get a PPA ticket for being 5 minutes past the meter, but if you’re in on a non-permit street, you can park on the sidewalk or in the middle of the road, and violate every parking rule and nothing will happen.
The purpose of the cell phone lot is to prevent people from parking on the shoulder. Last time I did this a cop came and made everyone move. That’s more important than trying to make it a revenue generation opportunity.
I believe you, but I've also not seen that happen often. Apparently OP hasn't either.
We're all coming at this from an anecdotal perspective, of course, but my gut feeling is that i would be shocked if the enforcement is any better at PHL than anywhere else outside of center city.
I’ve lived in a lot of cities and flown through many more. This is the only place where I’ve seen this happen. I think it’s because people here give 0 fucks when it comes to anything car-related and have a myopic view of everything centered on themselves.
I love this city but god damn. The car culture is so toxic and self-centered it’s incredible. Even on my street it’s a crapshoot if I can
I see at at JFK and EWR all the time, particularly EWR as I take people there often. It's not just a PHL thing.
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Same. Haven’t ever seen it in another city. Last time I said that someone said they did to Make it seem like it was normal elsewhere….
I’ve seen it at JFK, EWR, LAX, and most recently at Chicago Midway. Idk how you’re missing it.
I struggle with this in my neighborhood. Lots of places with room for three cars but only two end up there with way too much room on both ends and the middle. As for the other, I'm lucky I didn't have to go anywhere today because I don't think I can get out. I get that the guy in front of me is trying not to block the hydrant with his giant work truck, but the guy behind me is four inches from my bumper with over a foot and a half between him and the dead car behind him. Rolling back six inches would have helped a lot. Of course, getting rid of the five dead cars on the block would help, but that's unlikely anytime soon.
Imagine the city towing cars that are legally abandoned!! Someone literally parked their giant trucks bumper (why the hell you need a Ford F6000 in a city is beyond me) over my wife’s bumper and if she had needed to leave she’d have been trapped. It’s buck wild.
There are five on my block that haven't moved in the year I've been here. The dead one near mine belonged to the guy two houses down who died before we moved in. Someone removes the mail periodically, but that's it. Otherwise, the house and car just sit. It's an older car, like late 80s/early 90s, so it has zero value, and the heirs have no reason to bother selling it.
I'm trying to convince the landlord to let me dismantle to creaky rear deck so we park in the back.
I feel like they could at least get scrap for it. When my pos car died I got like $100 for the metal and had to do 0 work
I suspect they're not bothering to transfer it. But yeah, if I could get the five towed it would be great for everyone. Right now a single guest to the neighborhood, or work truck, throws off the whome situation. It any of the vacant houses fill, and don't have rear parking, it's foing to get ugly.
It happens in Chicago and Atlanta too.
This happens at JFK as well and that belt parkway is definitely more dangerous to park than 95.
The parking drives me FUCKING CRAZY. Being efficient with your space and backing up appropriately should be a fuckin reflex.
I legit don’t know how you can live in a city, some of these people their entire lives of 70+ years and not know how to parallel park. And then they complain when someone “takes their spot”
If you want a driveway move to Cherry Hill like everyone else who’s complaining
It happens in Chicago as well.
That is been a problem for over 20 years. There were efforts to ticket cars but it seemed to go in fits and starts.
I usually wait at the Wawa on 291 in Tinicum. It has snacks and a bathroom. Lots of airports stop there so it safer than the one on Island Road. Almost the same time to get there as parking in cell phone lot. If possible later at night I have the person I am picking up and meet on the ticket counter road. Departing Flights.
Before the cell phone lot existed, people would wait on the shoulder. I remember when they were “no, seriously, we’re going to enforce it!” But it never really lasted. It’s one of those things that will never go away.
It is not almost the same time to get to the terminals from the lot as the Wawa. The points about the bathrooms and snacks is true, but the road from the cell phone lot empties onto the arrivals road almost at the start of the pickup area. It's almost as close as parking on the shoulder of the road as it approaches the pickup area. The lot even has some vending machines in it for snacks now. The main issue with the lot is vehicles leaving it can get caught in a jam caused by ride-share, taxis and other commercial drivers entering the road for them to make pickups. The road needs better signage so that non-commercial vehicles don't sit in the line, having to be directed away once they reach the gatehouse controlling the road, which slows down the the throughput and causes the traffic jam.
I worked at the airport a long time ago. I never felt comfortable in the cell phone lot. I worry about security as it is isolated place for a robbery. I don't like the traffic leaving it. I actually usually try to avoid the Arrival's road and have the person I am picking up meet me on the departures road. From the Wawa when the person I am picking up makes it to bag claim I leave Wawa and kill time circling International Plaza. I just don't like the cell phone lot.
Bathrooms and concessions for food trucks were suggested but shot down by airport management.
But I agree with OP something needs to be done about parking on I95 ramps.
If you are referring to the lot on Bartram, that's not the lot anymore. The new lot is entered off of the car rental road, same road used to access the Marriott as well, and empties out further back up the road at the split for the car rental road and road to arrivals and baggage claim. Yeah, the old lot, which was fairly close to the Wawa, and also for a time served as the lot for Black car/limos and briefly for ride-share cars, wasn't as well lit and also not as populated. The new road is squarely on airport property and is more well lit and "secure feeling".
I used it a few times. Was there when it was built. I never felt good parked there. I only go to the airport a couple times a year. The lot on Bartram was not that great.
I still think that airports could develop cell phone lots to generate revenue with concession sales and make it more attractive and better enforce traffic laws on the ramps. But I think with all the retirements that the airport police is understaffed.
95 is patrolled by PA state police. So no revenue for the city.
Technically, is that ramp in Tinicum Twp, Delco?
It is tinicum but patrolled by Philly. You don't see Delco cops in or around the airport.
Correct. PPD does the airport and all access roads.
I've been ticketed there twice in the past 15 years by Philadelphia police. The cell phone lot is convenient and the place to be.
Yeah I’ve been to a lot of airports and Philly is the only one where I’ve seen people get away with parking on the shoulder like that. Is don’t know why they aren’t told to move - in ATL they beat on your car window if you pause too long in the pickup lane.
That would be Philly PD’a responsibility, not the parking authority (since it’s not a parking area) and Philly PD does not enforce any traffic violations.
So, ironically, there’s less enforcement in the 1,000% illegal to park.
The police don’t really stick around the ramps.
They do, however, patrol the pick up lanes, especially at night. They’ll rap on your window and tell you to keep on moving if they notice that you’re in one spot for too long.
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They park on the shoulder bc it's direct access to picking up the person once they are out. If you go to the cell phone lot, easy to get to, but you have to loop around to arrive at the arrival gate. Been going to the Philly airport for over 25 years now, it's not nearly as bad as it used to be when the cellphone lot didn't exist.
To those who don't want to make 4 lefts, oh fucking well.
Seriously the Philly cell phone lot has to be one of the easiest to get to that not many airports have.
LPT: tell whoever you're picking up to have them call you when they've gotten their bags from baggage claim. Don't try to be some wise ass with timing thinking that if you leave ten minutes after the board says arrived that you'll be picking your passenger up. Just tell whoever is being picked up to call you when they've gotten their bags.
Your LPT is the one. I don’t understand how people even end up waiting for people they pick up in these days of online flight tracking and cell phones. The person I’m picking up can wait for me if the timing isn’t perfect.
You don't have to "loop around". The road empties out onto the approach road for the terminals. Provided there's no traffic it takes seconds. Only problem is there often it traffic from non commercial vehicles getting caught in the line for taxis, Ubers and limos that bears to the right.
Oh, that still counts as looping around for me. It's not a direct road as if you were wanting on the shoulder before the arrival gate...
I been going to the airport for over 35 years now, you don’t have to loop around from the cell phone lot.
How do you exit and go directly to the arrival gate? Tell me your secret!
You turn left
You still have to go around though. It's not a direct exit to the arrival gate, as if you were waiting on the shoulder right before you get to the gates. I know it's not a complete loop, as if you were exiting the airport and getting back on, but it's still more than just going straight.
The pushback to describing it as "loop around" is that it implies it adds extra time to a pickup vs parking on the shoulder, and it doesn't. It adds an extra minute to stopping, but once in the lot there is little to no difference in pickup times. The "loop around" only matters if someone for some reason was driving nonstop through the lot to go to arrivals, which Uber and Lyft drivers do have to do in order to access the the commercial road from where they make pickups, but they don't have a choicr tomdo what they need to do. However, if you are coming early to pick someone up, there is virtually no difference between sitting in the lot vs sitting on the shoulder, except one is legal and had vending machines and the other is illegal and dangerous. One caveat is if parked on the bridge shoulder, which is even worse but thankfully most cars are not parked there. Other caveat is of there is traffic on the arrivals road from the lot.
Been dropping and picking up friends at the airport for the past years. Finally realized why people do it. Additionally, you dont have to wait for the cluster fuck of a wait at that stop light where you merge between the uber and regular lane. Whoever designed that road an absolute idiot.
Always assume every other driver is actively trying to kill people. They'll risk pulling off a shoulder into highway speed traffic to save 45 seconds, or are just toi lazy to park in an back out of a spot.
The Cell Phone waiting lot is poorly designed.
There's no punishment for parking on the shoulder with your hazards on.
Human IQ drops to room temperature the closer you get to an airport.
I literally never understood why people were waiting along the side of the road 😂 I also never understood why the “cell phone lot” existed, such a horrible name.
They used to heavily regulate the on ramp parking pre-covid. I think the cops gave up on that and people got lazy again. The cell phone lot is super easy and way less stressful than ramp parking. I saw people walking across and down the ramp a few weeks ago. So unsafe.
Im the idiot that didn’t know what a cell phone lot was until this post. Are there signs for it? Is it easy to get to the pick up spot from it? How long does it take? Are there a designated lot for each terminal? Some of you make it sound a hell of a lot easier to sit and wait there than in the area everyone actually parks to wait. I hate the chaos.
It's a single lot, just before you enter the arrivals area, just follow the signs for the Cell Phone Lot...It couldn't be easier or more simple.
I have to pick someone up at the airport in a month or so. Weirdly excited to give it a shot
If you live close to the airport, I would recommend doing a few dry runs of pretending to pick them up at their arrival terminal. PHL airport is one huge loop on an island, that is fully navigated solely with highways, on/off/merging/converging ramps, and merging lanes, and is very confusing if you don’t already have knowledge of the entrances and exits you need to follow. Google maps isn’t very helpful either at the airport, and navigational alerts will happen faster than you’ll be prepared for.
Look at Google maps to route yourself there ahead of time. When you get on the “airport island” after crossing any of the long bridges, start really following the overhead highway signs, they’re useful. First follow signs for arrivals / cell phone waiting lot, so you know where to park and wait for their plane to land. Then exit the lot and follow signs for “arrivals”, and “pick up area”. That takes you to the terminals, which are all laid out on a long one-way road. Simply follow cars that will be going this way, but don’t follow cars going to departures of course! It’s easy to do that by mistake. Terminals are labeled with letters A-F. Do not pass their terminal! If you do, you will have to exit and loop back around the entire airport, which is annoying and can take anywhere from 5-30 minutes depending on traffic. After you’re familiar with the terminal where they will come outside to your car, keep driving thru and follow signs for whichever highway you need to go home. This way you can get a feel of the layout.
All of the airport employees, police, taxis and Uber drivers are very knowledgeable and helpful if you get lost or confused.
Thanks for the tips! The few times I’ve driven through the arrivals area of the airport I’ve missed my terminal and had to do that full loop you talked about. Not fun with traffic lol
I’ve heard that Uber drivers park there waiting for fares
They have a separate, designated lot.
Yes and they don't use it because it's faster to wait on the shoulder
I've done Uber in the past. There's a virtual queue for airport pickups, and you have to be in the designated lot in order to remain in the queue. Waiting on shoulder = no rides.
Shouldn't find too many Uber's waiting on the shoulder. There's a lot for them very close to the pickup area, next to the lot for taxis and limos, past the gatehouse that causes the backup there. Safer, closer and there is a bathroom.
It’s honestly so easy to use. No less convenient than hitting the flashers on the shoulder, but a lot safer.
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The cops used to ticket. I haven't seen any effort to keep the shoulders clear since air traffic picked back up post-quarantine. I've done dropoffs/pickups at the airport maybe half a dozen times in the last couple of months and the people waiting on the ramps is as bad as it's ever been.
I have no idea how regular this occurrence is, but the one time I had to pick someone up and utilized the cellphone lot, I was stuck in traffic trying to get out of that lot for 40 MINUTES. It was nuts.
Really? I’ve always found it super convenient. Way better than hoping no one crashes into me waiting just off the road. Maybe I’ve just been lucky.
You’ve probably been lucky. But that being said, I wouldn’t dare to park on the side of the interstate regardless of my experience.
I drive for Uber on the side. It used to take me to the lot and have me wait there. It used to be worth it to wait there.. Not anymore though. But I notice the part where we used to park is blocked off. Idunno what the cell phone waiting lot is even for anymore. Especially since they make us do pick ups in the same area as cabs now. I’m never just stuck in the lot anymore.
The main Uber lot is on Island Ave, across from what used to be the Overseas Terminal. 4700 Island Ave, next to the Double Tree hotel. There is a an additional lot close to the pickup area for Comfort class and Lux vehicles, sharing the lot with limos and other Black car vehicles, next to the cab staging lot past the gatehouse.
Right but like… We rarely get hung up at the lot anymore. I assume you drive or know the airport well? Think about it.. They’ve changed something with the algorithms or whatever in this post pandemic era.. Its not like drivers are sittin in a lot with a hundred others and skipping rides till they get the NY, DC, Harrisburg, etc distance trips..
It might not be cheaper to fly into Philly and take an Uber the rest of the way to those destinations like before.. But the airport seems to have changed how they operate in conjunction with the ride share companies’ algorithms and passengers’ demands… Theres a marked difference between driving Uber now and driving Uber before the pandemic is basically what I’m getting at… with regards to Philly Airport pickups
They are always tweaking the algorithm. There's "priority rematch", introduced back in 2018which is when the apps (Uber/Lyft) pair a driver making a dropoff at the airport with someone needing a ride who has just arrived. This is supposed to lead to riders get their rides just a bit quicker while removing the need for drivers to go to the lot. As a result however, if incoming flights aren't making heavy demands on ride-share vehicles someone in the lot can wait a long time for a ride than would be the case before they implemented priority rematch.
Tbh, I think cabs have the upper hand now that they can line up and wait in the same area we’re required to pick them up at now.. Seems easier to just get in a cab than fumble around summoning and waiting for an Uber to loop around and get you. Certainly makes no sense anymore to stand next to a running cab while you wait for me to come from the Uber nether realm to get there. Idunno.
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Cabs do have an upperhand, in price and in wait time, especially at airports. Just a lot of people have been burned by them pretty bad pre-uber days, or pre-uber-going-bad and are just used to Uber, they don't think much of using one even when there is a line of cabs waiting in front of them while they are waiting for an Uber to show up. Just told someone the other day about this, although because of his prior experiences he said he was inclined to just wait for Lyfts.
Yeah, I'm like 50/50 on cab vs uber away from the airport. The cabs are often cheaper and faster to get in. But my experiences with taxi rides are so often negative. They are often dirty, drivers sometimes don't speak any english, they will play the 'credit card machine is broken' game like 50% of the time. Last time I got a cab the windows were open in the middle of winter and when I asked to close them he told me they were broken. The comfort levels and vehicles standards of uber sometimes make me just take the extra time and money for a decent ride.
Something I've wanted to try: apparently it's illegal in Philly for a cab to drive with a broken credit card machine, or it was. It wasn't illegal not to have one I don't think, but if a car was equipped it had to work. If a driver made a pickup with a broken card machine, a rider had the right to leave the car without paying. What many people who did this found was the machine wasn't actually broke, the driver just didn't want to take credit card payments, as they got less from the fare. Suddenly a broken card machine worked. All the cabs I've ever used, and to be sure there haven't been many, had working card machines.
Yeah, I've heard the same, and it's not like I'm doing this to be a dick. If I'm doing business travel I'm not getting reimbursed for expenses that aren't on my corporate credit card, your screwing me out of $30-40 if you try to force a cash payment
Have seen cops come up and kick everyone out of that lane.
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Same reason any law isn't anymore, PPD are on strike. And this time they are putting our internation airport and all flights to/from at undue risk cause they are politically-driven lazybones.
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Let ‘em. More spots in the lot.
Been a solid decade since I picked anyone up at the airport but every time I tried to use the cellphone lot I ended up lost in Eastwick on the way back to the terminals. I assume with Google navigation it's better now but still a pain.
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Because, in theory, it's a good idea. But no one enforces the parking situation on the ramp.
The cell phone lot was a great idea but poor execution, it's too small and could use better signage. It actually gets really full at times then you have assholes parking all over the place to the point it's difficult backing out of your spot. I'll use it in the middle of the day but not during peak hours. People parking on the shoulder never bothered me it's plenty big enough and the police have more important things to worry about.
Yep, when I moved to the city I had no idea what it was. When I found out and tried to find it the first time I must have missed the sign because I ended up totally turned around. Great idea, but it would be much better with big signs that just say "Free Parking for Airport Pickup"
I've been there a hundred times and still miss the entrance sometimes lol
Airport isn't in the city. City wouldn't get any money.
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It was there to deter people from parking on the shoulder. However, people don't care about laws because law enforcement doesn't enforce the laws. Welcome to Philly! Hope the person you picked up had a smooth flight and enjoys their stay!
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I've seen a trooper roll up and ticket people on that shoulder clearning out over 10 cars. It is a super dangerous place to post up
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You're a schmuck. At least ya figured it out.
Ticketing people at the airport inconveniences Karens, dickhead.
The city spends money ticketing people making their court date 📅- so the state can pretend it keeps a balanced budget & punishes the Poors like GOD intended.
Some of those people are illegal cabs or in some cases Ubers, at least that’s the case around Newark/JFK. There were some regs briefly that said Ubers couldn’t operate around those airports so they’d post up out there. Some people are just from the era before phones and cell phone lots and are stuck in the cycle of doing it their way.
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So that you have an alternative to blocking traffic/“pulling to the side”, right before the arrivals. It has saved the lives of many an idiot. Be thankful for it. It’s your friend
What do police enforce in Philly? Probably if murder is a minor offense, chillin on the shoulder at the airport isn’t even remarkable
what i dont understand is why anyone leaves their house before the persons plane lands and they are headed to baggage claim. it doesn't hurt them to wait an extra 5-10 minutes. Im certainly not hanging around the airport for an hour waiting for a flight to land.
Idk about a ton of revenue. Once they put their flashers on for one ticket everyone else will drive off and circle around until the cops are gone. At the end of the day I guess it’s not hurting anyone enough to warrant requiring police to scare them away all day long.
Has anyone actually observed or heard about a crash/fender bender caused by this? Or, a close call maybe?
I’m a defensive driver who is generally offended by dangerous road behaviors, and I’ve driven to the airport >50 times.
This doesn’t rustle my jimmies.
I actually pay the $5 to park in the garage when I pick someone up from the airport.
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They are lazy and cheap. They could easily park in the garage for a few bucks get their party and get out.
Just another of of those things Philadelphians say we would like to change but we really don’t. Start ticketing people on the ramps and you’ll start getting the litany of complaints from overentitled jerkoffs about how police should focus on actual crime.
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Found an entitled prick that thinks rules are just a suggestion.
Sitting on the side of a road waiting for a friend or family member to be ready makes me entitled? Your priorities in life are jacked up my guy
There's a fucking lot, use it. The dangers of waiting there are when you pull out of said road that's on an apex and you can't see the other cars coming while you merge. You're putting other people in danger because youre lazy as fuck.
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It says "no parking."
I don’t park there. I idle there while I wait for my friends or family to tell me they’re ready
My bad. It says: "no stopping any time"
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We'll, hopefully a cop suggests you pay a fine next time you do this 🤞
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There very much is a danger. One of these days there's going to be a bad accident as someone gets hit pulling away from that shoulder, or even trying to slow down to park on it. Cars coming off the highway doing 40-50mph and someone is braking hard to pull into a spot on the shoulder. It's infuriating.
Get out of here, shoulder parker
Why do YOU care? If this post isn't impacting you, well then, in your own words... "mind your own business ". Someone is a few fries short of a happy meal!
When people don’t mind their business, it most certainly does impact me. That was the point of me commenting but that went over your head. If I’m sitting on the side of the road, out of your way, why do you care about what I’m doing? Worry about picking your people up, how you are driving, what music you’re playing, whatever. Don’t question what I’m up to.
Lmao, that's like saying "people get frustrated that I'm not following the rules and I don't like that". By acquiring and maintaining your driver's license, you agree to abide by the rules of the road. You are not allowed to park in the shoulder (except for emergencies like after an accident or temporary urgent situations like getting pulled over or a break down,). Shoulders are specifically designed to allow for adequate space for situations like that so that normal traffic may continue without being blocked, for emergency vehicles to maneuver around traffic flow. It's dangerous for both people driving on the road and someone parked in the shoulder, which is why in the case of the airport there is a dedicated temporary parking lot you can wait until you're able to loop around and pick up someone at arrivals. If one person parks in the shoulder is it the end of the world? Obviously not. But 1 turns into 2 turns into 20 and now there are even more dangerous situations with people pulling in/out without looking or not seeing a car. Part of being a productive member of society is understanding the overall impact of actions. Just because parking in the shoulder may be more convenient for you on an individual level, you must realize that you are part of the whole, just one person out of the thousands utilizing the airport services that day, and subsequently as a whole picking up is the safest and most efficient if you use the cell phone lot if you need to wait to pick up your passenger.
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Economy-Cantaloupe42 t1_j98otjh wrote
I don't understand it either. It's so easy to park in the cell phone lot and head out when you need to. Why do people still park on the road?