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Hib3rnian t1_je9gkbo wrote

If these casinos were smart they'd just open a pay by the hour daycare and be done with it.

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fuckouttaheawiddat t1_je9lvvb wrote

Addicts would gamble away all their money and then wouldn't be able to pay the daycare fees

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dsbtc t1_je9qgnk wrote

The house wins either way

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fuckouttaheawiddat t1_je9raol wrote

Seize the kids then sell them to states that have gutted child-labor laws

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Easy-Reading t1_je9vq54 wrote

It's wild what's happening. AR is about to show us why child labor laws were originally enacted.

Earlier this month Arkansa enacted the Youth Hiring Act of 2023. Under the new law children under 16 don't have to get the Division of Labor's permission to be employed. The state also no longer has to verify the age of those under 16 before they take a job. The law doesn't change the hours or kinds of jobs kids can work.

"Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders believes protecting kids is most important, but this permit was an arbitrary burden on parents to get permission from the government for their child to get a job," communications director Alexa Henning said in a statement to NPR. "All child labor laws that actually protect children still apply and we expect businesses to comply just as they are required to do now."

Workers under 16 in Arkansas have had to get these permits for decades.

Supporters of the new law say it gets rid of a tedious requirement, streamlines the hiring process, and allows parents — rather than the government — to make decisions about their children.

But opponents say the work certificates protected vulnerable youth from exploitation.

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Redpandaling t1_jeaacum wrote

Good lord, I did not know Arkansas elected Trump's press secretary as governor . . .

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frankoceansheadband t1_jea7gil wrote

Meanwhile, the same state government is trying to “protect children” by banning drag

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justasque t1_jeaezxl wrote

In PA you literally get working papers at your high school. And, as I vaguely remember it, it was in part an exercise in learning the rules, so if your employer violated them you knew. But now in AR there will be no moment when either employer or employee or employee’s parent is reminded of the rules. That’s not going to end well.

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Hib3rnian t1_jea5ogq wrote

Easy fix. Casinos operate on cards that monies are applied to from players for use on machines, tables, etc.

So players would use the casino card to check the kid into the daycare.

This is when the clock starts.

The balance tracker sets a "Not to go below" threshold on the balance that meets some set max timeframe for the kid to be in daycare (say 4hrs to keep the child advocates happy).

When the parent hits that amount threshold or time limit, their card freezes and they have to get the kid.

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fuckouttaheawiddat t1_jea8080 wrote

This definitely would work well for me, probably you, and the majority of the population, but feels like it could become enabling for people with gambling addiction. It's an excuse to drag the kids there more often since at least they'll be in someone's care. We're talking about the kind of gamblers who wear adult diapers to the casino so they don't have to leave the slot machine to take a piss. One bad news story about how casino daycare enabled someone to blow their rent money and it's a PR nightmare.

On the upside, the regulars' kids will get to know each other really well if they're in casino daycare together, so I guess they can build solidarity/friendships out of it.

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Hib3rnian t1_jeaneyj wrote

I guess the question becomes, do you not implement a solution that provides care for children of gamblers to avoid enabling addicts or do you provide a service that potentially saves a child(s) life but possibly enables/furthers gambling addictions of parents?

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fuckouttaheawiddat t1_jeb1dxj wrote

I guess it would boil down to how much it would cost (in actual costs plus the cost of making a potentially bad PR move). I would be really surprised to find out the casino industry hasn't done any inquiry into the idea and decided against it already, because on its face it seems logical if they want to attract customers. I wouldn't think the industry would start up daycare operations for any altruistic reasons

ETA other people have posted that some local casinos in Vegas do this already, so it must make sense for them.

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obi-jawn-kenobi t1_jea6fw7 wrote

That's why you prepay before you gamble.

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fuckouttaheawiddat t1_jea9ie6 wrote

Hey if casinos wanna implement it and communities are in support, I'm not gonna stop them.

If casino management thinks running a daycare is worth dealing with any PR nightmares over news stories about enabling people to blow their rent money, then they'll figure out a way to do it. Considering how much money the collective gambling industry makes, I would be shocked if they already haven't run the numbers and scenarios and decided it's not a good business decision.

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nalgene_wilder t1_je9itz8 wrote

They're already money printers, why would they waste even a dollar on something that would just be a liability?

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kekehippo t1_je9jwi6 wrote

Less bad publicity because as you know people are idiots and will leave their kids in a locked car in summer with the windows up. If I were the casino I would hedge people's idiocy to avoid headlines like "Dead children locked in car in front of Casino"

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nalgene_wilder t1_je9lexc wrote

People, particularly casino regulars, aren't going to be turned away in the unlikely event someone leaves their kid to die in a car. When has that ever hurt a company's business?

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FrankTank3 t1_je9zpxl wrote

New development, construction, or change of ownership are all subject to government oversight and involvement. If I owned a casino and wanted to start a new project subject to government interference, I’d rather do it when the public wasn’t pissed off at me and likely to put political pressure on politicians to “do something”.

And then some suit sees a chance to look like a hero and loudly fucks up what was supposed to be normal quiet business as usual.

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Lyeta1_1 t1_je9m1wm wrote

Casinos know this doesn't reflect badly on them, only on the person who left the child. No reason to take on childcare liability.

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fuckouttaheawiddat t1_je9m1bc wrote

It may end up being worse publicity since it would look like enabling people with gambling problems. Checking for kids at the parking lot entrance may work though

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oliver_babish t1_jea0kdn wrote

Especially if there were no limit to how many hours in a 24h period you could leave your kid there.

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Ams12345678 t1_je9uo0x wrote

That won’t stop gamblers from going to the casino.

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svenEsven t1_je9qdic wrote

The same reason they give out free hotel rooms, because then people can come gamble with more ease.

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nalgene_wilder t1_je9umc5 wrote

Free hotel rooms are easy though. Daycares come with a lot of regulations and liability issues

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TheFutureMrs77 t1_je9zwbh wrote

I remember when the Tropicana had the amusement park.... a core memory of my childhood is when the zipper broke on my outfit (one of those 80's/90's biker short one pieces with shoulder cutouts.... hot pink and purple. A site to behold!) and I was in the bathroom crying, no way to get ahold of my mom & stepdad, and one of the employees came in with her lanyard with all her buttons, and gave me a bunch to button up the front of my outfit, and then took me to the rollercoaster and let me ride a bunch of times. My brother had been somewhere in there too, but since he was older he was too cool to hang out with me and immediately left me to myself. I was probably 7 or 8? We spent so much time there, I actually have some photos I took one Christmas where I drew the AC boardwalk with the Trop as the main focus, and took pictures of my Barbies in front of it like they were on vacation.

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sciencefaire t1_je9q06g wrote

Back when we were kids, AC used to have this indoor amusement park called Tivoli Pier. I think it was at what is now Tropicana. We'd get dropped off and go to town on the games and indoor roller coaster while my parents gambled 🤣

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Its_called_pork_roll t1_jeadqud wrote

I lived near AC and man do I remember tivoli pier.

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sciencefaire t1_jeagz1g wrote

My favorite ride was the really slow Atlantic City history tour ride. That shit was my jam bc the roller coaster eventually gave me vertigo 🤣

I bet I still have those little teeny tiny dice prizes somewhere in a little keepsake box at my parent's house.

Do you remember- was it in the taj? Or Trop?

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DeadSwaggerStorage t1_jea3jo8 wrote

I used to live in Florida….they had 24 hour day care that you could pay by the hour…..the next block had pay by the hour motels……..connect the dots…

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Tony_Blundetto t1_je9tt68 wrote

The Station Square casinos in Vegas do this. I would imagine many don’t because openly offering to watch children is such a huge liability vs the actual benefit.

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lawtechie t1_je9simf wrote

Would that daycare just be a bunch of slot machines?

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Level-Adventurous t1_je9otpg wrote

I don’t think it’s legal. I don’t believe you can have a casino within a certain distance of schools, churches, daycares and stuff like that.

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St_Veloth t1_je9xnji wrote

There's literally one across the street I believe

edit: nvm this was at Live! not Rivers

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Peemster99 t1_jeadw9s wrote

All of the locals-oriented casinos in Las Vegas have them.

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