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QuidProJoe2020 t1_je5v1eu wrote

I think guys with guns in army fatigues will stop the pieces of shit from doing crimes in their presence to a good degree. At least worth the try as more citizens have been murdered in the last three years in Philly than a 3 yesr perood EVER BEFORE.

Idk maybe criminals look forward to getting shot up by army men, but I'm going to assume they will react similarly to when police are there, as they face the same outcomes of a cop being there: a bullet or an arrest.

No where did I say this will definitely work, but the question is why shit on something new to try when we literally have never had homicides this high?

The only person that can moral grandstand on new ideas with a retort of: let's try something that takes years, is someone who doesn't feel crime.

I care about outcomes, and everything someone has responded with is a solution that takes years. So in the meantime, we should just tell citizens: 500 of yall have to die yearly but please hold on we are working on it! Naa I refuse to think that's appropriate

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lucascorso21 t1_je5ysxj wrote

Got it, so you're just throwing ideas out there without understanding what the guard is actually capable of doing (which is not community policing), how that would work legally and operationally, and if that would make things better or worse.

I'm all about solving this plague of violence. But if you don't understand what you are actually proposing, maybe you shouldn't say it?

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QuidProJoe2020 t1_je60lut wrote

What I am advocating is trying something immediate to save lives. Maybe it works and then holy shit we have more living philadelphians, or maybe it fails and we are in the same exact boat.

If you want to say this idea can fail, I agree. What we are doing now is failing.

You're looking at a huge hole in the ship and I'm saying let's try to patch it with this, and you're response is: what if the ship continues to sink. That is literally what we are dealing with now.

We can do more than one thing at a time. While we work on long term reforms, we can do things in the immediate to try and give citizens of this great city a respite.

I just will never agree with thinking that letting 500+ of my fellow citizens die is more acceptable than trying something during THE DEADLIEST TIME EVER IN CITY HISTORY.

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