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GooFoYouPal t1_jcd9nsl wrote

*Nissan Altima lanes

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New_Land4575 t1_jcdcznq wrote

Just another free parking lane

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Alexlam24 t1_jcdsbqq wrote

UberEATS drivers: it's free real estate

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SouthPhilly_215 t1_jce86mb wrote

Love when I’m doing some Uber driving and the very same people who are vocal about delivery drivers and drivers waiting for riders “blocking” the side lane and I just KNOW you’re the same people ordering the food I’m delivering or the very same people asking whats taking me so long to get to you in reduced lane traffic… You all use delivery apps and call Uber/Lyft for rides. Very few of you actually bike or scooter to get around. You applaud evil ass PPA cockroaches writing tickets and you applaud bike lanes and bus lanes. But most of you are in the back of an Uber right now as you downvote and come up with some smart ass rebuttal. Stay hypocritical out there!

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mortgagepants t1_jcfgchb wrote

every driver should thank a cyclist every chance they get. that's one extra car off the road, leaving more room for you.

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Least_Way t1_jcfku35 wrote

Nah cyclists deserve to die for making drivers pay a little more attention for a few seconds

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mortgagepants t1_jcfl9rk wrote

i want to organize a cyclist appreciation day in philly. everyone who normally rides will get a car and we can go around clogging up all the roads once per year.

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AbsentEmpire t1_jcg0oph wrote

Everyone just illegally park in an intersection during rush hour. Shouldn't take too many to cause gridlock.

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mortgagepants t1_jcg2uc8 wrote

don't even have to do anything illegal. just a few more cars on chestnut or walnut and the city is frozen. couple more people on the schuykill and vine street. too easy.

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givemebackmybrain t1_jcgtrt0 wrote

I'm down. I'll rent the biggest truck home depot has to carry just me through center city to the other home depot.

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AbsentEmpire t1_jch755i wrote

Stop randomly in any street, put on the park anywhere lights and tell the people beeping at you that only be a minute while you go into a store and slowly count how many light bulbs they have in it.

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AbsentEmpire t1_jcg0k02 wrote

How dare you suggest that drivers should pay any attention to cyclists, or pedestrians, or other cars on the road!

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TheNightmareOfHair t1_jcfulyw wrote

Stat of the day: 70% of Philadelphians are in the back of an Uber right now. (I assume the other 30% are the ones driving them.)

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ten_cent_toaster t1_jcfi3at wrote

This is a bad excuse man, when I drove DoorDash for a few weeks I made a concerted effort not to park illegally in ways I blocked traffic, because I know how much of a problem it is for other drivers. I get that it’s a grind to make money on those apps but no one is being hypocritical here

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SouthPhilly_215 t1_jcntl3h wrote

No one? Thats pretty incredible confidence you have. Nobody at all in here? Really? All of you ride bikes every day or take septa? Never ever drive or summon a driver? Never? Never ditch your bike cause its raining, snowing, too cold, too windy? Liars.

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PhillyAccount t1_jcg2szb wrote

Making up someone up in your head and getting mad at them, a time honored internet tradition

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SouthPhilly_215 t1_jcnsz31 wrote

I’ve done over 4500 trips in the past 5 years cuz. I’ve been more vocal about it in this past year as things are almost fully back to reopened (for the most part) and people seem to be soooo surprised at the wait times, the traffic, and you’d be shocked at some of the screenshots I’ve taken of messages from impatient riders who seem to make you wanna perform some magic trick and just appear before their eyes.

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SanjiSasuke t1_jce7pmx wrote

Hopefully SEPTA embraces r/bitchimabus energy if so.

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Roguewind t1_jcffus5 wrote

“I’m not really parking. I’m just stopping for a minute to run inside real quick. Not very long. And the closest parking spot was a block away. I’ll be right back”

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Scumandvillany t1_jcdalwc wrote

Without automated enforcement, or enforcement period, this will mean absolutely nothing

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CattlemensSteakhouse t1_jcdhyrd wrote

Literally means nothing unless it’s protected or highly patrolled.

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SnoopRion69 t1_jce3wfq wrote

But who could possibly patrol it

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zR0B3ry2VAiH t1_jcekagg wrote

The Nissan Altimas can?

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uptown_gargoyle t1_jcf3i6z wrote

the garbage man can

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herpaderpadont t1_jcf58ic wrote

🎶 Who can take your refuse

and put in in the truck?

Who can patrol the traffic while not giving a fuck?

The garbage man can

The garbage man can 🎶

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kilometr t1_jcf4jq8 wrote

You need automated enforcement for buses to snap an image of the car in the lane. That’s what nyc does. Have police officers pull over people in masse in center city will have a worse impact on traffic when they’re stopped to the side then just letting cars run free in the bus lane

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ColdJay64 t1_jcfdvgi wrote

Exactly. This is one of the many ways the city could increase revenue with relatively minimal effort.

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CockercombeTuff t1_jck7o6n wrote

I mean, there would have to be consequences for not paying, which is also a problem. "Advocates" everywhere interjecting some overwrought opinion about how fines aren't fair.

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idiot900 t1_jch1ma5 wrote

I'm all for this, but the busted Altimas that will clog up these lanes don't have valid tags, so the city won't be able to identify them.

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gnartato t1_jcf1pyc wrote

Every law necessary to stop people from blocking travel lanes is on the books. The fact that we are wasting money on paint AND it's not coming out of the PPDs budget is criminal.

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Defiant-Ad412 t1_jcdd2sd wrote

They should do the same for crosswalks and bike lanes. At least that’ll hide the blood stains.

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Thot_P0cket t1_jcd7ym3 wrote

All we need now are some bright eyed police officers who will actually enforce the rules of the road.

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Genkiotoko t1_jcdfae5 wrote

It's even simpler.

>All we need now are some bright eyed police officers who will actually enforce the rules of the road.

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yourfriendkyle t1_jcdnao0 wrote

Sorry, best I can offer is shoot a dog and evict a homeless camp

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DuvalHeart t1_jcfad1g wrote

And then go out on full pay disability for the emotional trauma caused by having to shoot a dog and see people evicted from their home.

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CockercombeTuff t1_jck84pp wrote

Ah yes, surely what the city needs more of is homeless camps, especially ones full of righteous, overgrown children fighting "the man". The solutions are right in front of us if we just make up the right narrative.

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hdhcnsnd t1_jcdsl5l wrote

I will say a bright color on bike/bus lanes does make me feel safer when cycling. I wish that at a minimum we could get full green paint on all of the bike lanes.

But yeah, I don’t really ride my bike in the bus lane even though it says it’s only for bikes and buses. It’s a defacto driving lane on Chestnut even where it’s fully painted because nobody does anything about it.

You could setup a literal single police officer to patrol the multi-block bus lanes and they would make a killing writing tickets…

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benifit t1_jcf8w0x wrote

Chestnut through center city is the worst. I actually prefer market. Cars double parking and honking at cyclists in the bus/bike only lane. People are driving through the densest part of the city and are surprised they are sitting in traffic? Take the damn train/bus or sit in the traffic you are causing.

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mortgagepants t1_jcfgss5 wrote

in new york the buses on those routes (bus rapid transit) have cameras and send tickets directly to the license plates.

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mortgagepants t1_jcfk60t wrote

they have no problem doing it on the PA turnpike, so it should be easy enough to implement.

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AbsentEmpire t1_jcg1xgl wrote

If city council doesn't see a clear and obvious way to embezzle the money, they're not interested.

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SnooOwls7978 t1_jcehdqo wrote

Another case of paint =/= infrastructure

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bosscav t1_jcg9j54 wrote

Plus wet street paint get SLICK. People are gonna be falling and busting their ass walking across this...

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WhiskyIsMyYoga t1_jcf3l97 wrote

I bet the bus lane will also be the bike lane! Also with some paint!

That’s my absofuckinglute favorite!

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Badkevin t1_jcft7at wrote

Same here, I like that Bikes are allowed to ride on this lanes.

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Odd-Emergency5839 t1_jcdp7t8 wrote

Because it works so good on chestnut. I’d definitely rather have it than not but it’s questionable with how much it has done in Philly so far.

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JDLENL t1_jce920v wrote

put a big wedge on the bus like those steam trains had for shoving cows out of the way

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William_d7 t1_jcdgxmy wrote

This isn’t meant to be a “hot take” or anything but this is pointless.

No one tries to spend any extended amount of time in the right lane on Market west of Broad because of the buses and livery services. Nothing is going to stop the liveries from stopping and the far left isn’t really any better.

I don’t expect enforcement of any kind but if it WAS enforced, it’s really the kind of subjective call that police could use to single out people for arbitrary reasons. Are there concrete regulations in the statute that delineate when a passing maneuver is ok or at what distance from the intersection it’s ok to enter the right lane for a right turn?

Can’t read the article because of paywall but does it specify which blocks?

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thecw t1_jcfso7s wrote

Philly desperately wants to believe it can solve any number of problems passively.

You get clean subway stations by having a human being clean them.

You get clear travel lanes by ticketing and towing cars parked in them.

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Allemaengel t1_jcezmt4 wrote

So sort of the red carpet treatment for illegal parkers then?

In all seriousness, a good idea even if only a few oblivious drivers get the idea.

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trifflinmonk t1_jcdhemj wrote

If you go straight through the intersection you were supposed to turn right at, it could be enforced. They work well in nyc.

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GuineaPigBikini t1_jcdp2tu wrote

Other cities have separate bus lanes and it works great to let them skip traffic

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AbsentEmpire t1_jcg1cxd wrote

Other cities also make an attempt to enforce traffic and parking laws.

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watwatinjoemamasbutt t1_jce3gje wrote

The same market street with the “bike lane closed” signs that look like they should be covering a pothole but without flashing lights? Aight.

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Palindromes__ t1_jce13ki wrote

Nothing says go quite like bright red.

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D_Ranz_0399 t1_jcfaa53 wrote

No one will maintain them. The paint will peel and neither SEPTA or the City will repaint. Epic fail.

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shinyRedButton t1_jcfvo5x wrote

Or. Hear me out. The city could just enforce the bus and bike lane rules. Like. Ya know. Write tickets and tow people that park in them. Just a weird concept. I know its out there. Maybe just try it out before dumping even more tax money into PAINTING THEM RED

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CockercombeTuff t1_jck8d99 wrote

The city can't/won't even enforce the raised bike lane on N American St.

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FormerHoagie t1_jcdqft2 wrote

Something else to look horrible in 6 months. The asphalt doesn’t show the grime….this will make it glaringly obvious. Bad call.

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Manowaffle t1_jceyrks wrote

Seems somewhat effective in other cities, but Market St is literally next to the PPA offices there, yet people are parked in that lane every day.

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Badkevin t1_jcft12u wrote

It might sound kind of silly, but the red lanes really do help get cars out of the way. You can feel the difference Especially When bicycling on this with your family. Cars can clearly tell that they are not meant to be on this Lane, so they slow down behind me instead of trying to run me over like other lanes.

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bosscav t1_jcg9mrs wrote

They arent considering how slippery street paint gets when its wet... This is going to cause just as many issues as it solves

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DavidLieberMintz t1_jcguhab wrote

$800,000 for some road paint? Fuck me. I thought the city was incompetent. Turns out it's actively trying to waste money.

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CockercombeTuff t1_jck8t25 wrote

Depends on what side of that coin you are on, or rather which pocket the coin falls into. The guys painting it aren't going to stretch that work into overtime for nothing.

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stug41 t1_jcg6qph wrote

Da red wunz go fasta

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CockercombeTuff t1_jck728f wrote

That oughta do it. Someone should get a good 'atta boy! for this.

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chewyrolls t1_jce4xc6 wrote

The red painted bus lane on Chestnut St makes traffic worse when waiting for someone to make a left turn. Which is crazy because I would drive in the bus lane to avoid this traffic.

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