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nankles t1_jdctalx wrote

As Phil Ochs said:

In every American community there are varying shades of political opinion. One of the shadiest of these is the liberals. An outspoken group on many subjects, ten degrees to the left of center in good times, ten degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally.


PhillyPete12 t1_jdd4d38 wrote

I’ll give the conservatives props for consistently holding out of date and close minded opinions


bushwhack227 t1_jdgl591 wrote

Phil Ochs was a leftist, not a conservative. The above quote was the intro to his song, "Love Me, I'm a Liberal" which is a leftist critique of liberals, in the same way leftists like Sanders are critical of Pelosi, for example.

The distinction between liberals and leftists is not something that's widely understood. I would argue liberals and conservative probably have more in common with each other than do liberals and leftists. Liberals, like conservatives, believe that capitalism can be used to solve all or most problems.

The best example is probably healthcare policy. The liberal solution is Obamcare, which is very much a market-based system. The leftist solution is Medicare for all at the very least, or even an NHS-style system where practitioners are either govt employees or essentially contractors.