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A_Wild_Nudibranch t1_jbhrlm4 wrote

I really like the Mann, I do. But the lines of sight on the lawn are awful if you're not in front of the cement walkway and the sound is incredibly muddy. The parking attendants this summer at Phish were fantastic, super organized and yelled at appropriate times/volume.

The nitrous tanks are ridiculously out of hand, and while they're also at Camden, it seemed much worse at the Mann. The food options are really limited, too.

Camden has a kind of shifty parking situation if you're not in the close lots, but the sound is WAY better on the lawn, as well as the line of sight. Watching the sun set over Philly during shows on the lawn is such a beautiful addition, and I was kind of miffed that the Mann was chosen again for Phish's summer tour stop in Philly.

That Tweezerfest last summer was fantastic, though.

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chumpyis t1_jbinspe wrote

Crazy take. The mann is vastly superior for phish. The line of sight is better at Camden, but pretty much nothing else.

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skip_tracer t1_jbjglfy wrote

I don't doubt The Mann is better for all bands, Sharon Van Etten slayed last year, but I hope Phish never return. The way the park was left was absolutely shameful.

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nnp1989 t1_jbjoo0i wrote

Phish is not at all unique for fans leaving trash in the parking lots/surrounding area. Not excusing the littering, but it happens everywhere. Take a look at what it looks like after, say, a Kenny Chesney show.

As far as the balloons go, wooks gonna wook.

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chetstedman30 t1_jbjxwrr wrote

Yeah I’m sure only phish fans litter at concerts. Roots picnic is probably absolutely pristine.

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nnp1989 t1_jbjo3ve wrote

The trick for the Mann is to just hang out in the moat between the lawn and pav if you have lawn tickets. As long as you're okay with standing and can get there early enough, it's a great view. I did that for Phish N2 last year and it worked out pretty well. I was lucky enough to score actual seats in the main section for the Tweezerfest N1, which as you mentioned was absolutely face-melting.

I think the nitrous tanks are just a problem everywhere, but the lot scene tends to be so cramped at the Mann that they're all on top of each other and it makes it seem worse.

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CookedDenimRawPizza t1_jbjqpmz wrote

Yeah does the nitrous mafia run out of Point Breeze? I know they are based somewhere in Philly. Tanks are going to be huge regardless of venue in Philly.

Anyways, 3 for $20 no deals.

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A_Wild_Nudibranch t1_jbk1z4q wrote

Yeah it's Philly based. It was a trip going from Mann to MPP, and seeing ZERO tanks. MPP doesn't fuck around with the nitrous idiots, and it's so nice.

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A_Wild_Nudibranch t1_jbk0uz3 wrote

I was able to get into the moat on N2 under the bridge! Sound was much better. The breeze during that Tela was also well timed. Definitely going to be in the moat this run, see you there!

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snicklefritz85 t1_jbl7cl7 wrote

The Philly Tweezesteak! Both shows were killer. But yea, the nitrous tanks and the mess that comes along with it are atrocious. Put the balloons in your pocket for christs sake!

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chetstedman30 t1_jbjxt1a wrote

Mann is so much better for Phish with a better lot and the whole not driving/ferrying situation. And the updated lawn speakers are much better IMO.

See you on lot fam

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A_Wild_Nudibranch t1_jbk29og wrote

I'm definitely getting into the little moat on the lawn, for sure. See you there!

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