Submitted by misteryham t3_120icpr in philadelphia
CerealJello t1_jdhfn3r wrote
What a waste of space that lot is. Keep the diner, but put 5 or 6 stories of apartments above it. Right next to the Snyder Station and directly along the 37 bus route which gets you to the airport in 30 min.
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CerealJello t1_jdhh23c wrote
We really need a Land Value Tax. Everything within a block of a heavy rail transit stop should be valued much higher to spur development.
TheGangsHeavy t1_jdibaou wrote
More Land value = more taxes = higher rent
CerealJello t1_jdie0ys wrote
Not necessarily. If you shift the tax burden from land + improvement to just land, most property taxes probably won't be impacted unless it's a vacant or underutilized lot. Usually a tax policy change like that would have to be done on a revenue neutral basis to prevent the average homeowner from seeing a big spike in taxes owed.
FormerHoagie t1_jdiudtu wrote
So everything within a block of an subway stop should be valued much higher? Like in poor neighborhoods?
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Aromat_Junkie t1_jdhno66 wrote
i mean ok, but then there's definitely not going to be any cool diners next to subway stops.
CerealJello t1_jdho4dc wrote
Not true. You can have a diner below an apartment building. That kind of mixed use development creates a better, more walkable neighborhood.
Edit: Ellsworth Federal is one of the best examples of terribly used land. We have a surface lot in front of a diner at Ellsworth and a Pep Boys with a surface lot at Federal. Keep the businesses, remove the lots, upzone with more housing.
Aromat_Junkie t1_jdhom8e wrote
Oh yeah I mean, there would definitely be places like diners that still exist, probably just with a lot less shiny siding and neon lights.
ell0bo t1_jdhqn7w wrote
broad and south...
Aromat_Junkie t1_jdhtqp3 wrote
right city diner is there
Gobirds831 t1_jdhrmd8 wrote
What….the south street diner is not good enough for you
bobanforever t1_jdhmn6y wrote
Why is this getting upvotes lol
CerealJello t1_jdhn4rr wrote
Because property is underutilized along our main transit corridors both in and out of the city limits. The tax structures make it so that land owners can sit on basically empty pieces of land right on top of subway stops for minimal cost as long as they don't build. Higher taxes on the land itself would force them to shit or get off the pot. This is why you see land in center city being used as surface parking lots. LVT makes it harder to hold empty plots of land (like Broad and Washington was for so many years) in order to speculate on the future value. Land speculation raises the price for the rest of us who want to actually use the land for housing or business.
bobanforever t1_jdhnizi wrote
Ah, that makes sense. I’m just not a fan of the fill every space with shitty high rise condos trend
the_hoagie t1_jdi3s83 wrote
The options are either higher density buildings with more units, or more expensive houses.
apatheticwhiteguy t1_jdht3bl wrote
I believe that’s exactly what they’re doing.
r2_me2 t1_jdidxu0 wrote
The plans in the article are for broad st diner, not melrose tho.
apatheticwhiteguy t1_jdiygzc wrote
Woops!
CerealJello t1_jdi0lbp wrote
I want to believe, but the neighbors in South Philly can be ruthless. I wouldn't be surprised if the plan gets gutted to add more parking on site to appease the neighborhood.
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CerealJello t1_jdhj1tw wrote
It's a block and a half away, so it meets my definition of "by".
the_hoagie t1_jdi3w33 wrote
You can literally see Melrose from the Snyder stop.
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