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FMG1978 t1_jdmduzd wrote

Laser-focused on the issues that matter

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Indiana_Jawns t1_jdmgojh wrote

When there are laws being passed specifically aimed at discriminating against the LGBT community, yeah, this is an issue that matters. It could also be good for the city by reinforcing that we’re a community that accepts all people. Moves like this can entice people fleeing discrimination to move here

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pravl t1_jdnfhnq wrote

I'm from the south, and my family is still there. Sadly, my home state is becoming less safe for people like me, and it seems less and less likely I will ever move back to be close to family. When you feel like you are losing your home, it means a great deal to feel welcome in a new one.

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throwawaitnine t1_jdmhxcc wrote

What law are you talking about?

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Indiana_Jawns t1_jdmkp0o wrote

The ones that ban teachers from acknowledging same sex relationships exist. The ones that threaten people with felony charges for wearing clothing associated with the other gender. The ones that put children in danger if they dare to express themselves as who they are.

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BigShawn424 t1_jdmy0ri wrote

What law threatens people with felony charges when wearing clothes for the opposite gender.

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throwawaitnine t1_jdmm185 wrote

I don't really follow this issue, what laws are you talking about specifically?

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PhillyPanda t1_jdnd2ms wrote

I assume they’re referring to the TN bill that just passed

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doc89 t1_jdqpmwp wrote

>Tennessee Senate Bill 3, known as the Tennessee drag ban,[1] is an anti-drag bill, which [bans](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_(law)) public "adult cabaret performance" in front of children in the state of Tennessee.

Why do we have to pretend to care about this stuff???????? Aren't there more important issues we can be talking about?

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armchairmegalomaniac t1_jdmpf2o wrote

Sea lioning

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throwawaitnine t1_jdms971 wrote

Bro I ain't trolling, I have no idea what this user is talking about.

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armchairmegalomaniac t1_jdmx9nv wrote

Fine but they answered you. At that point if you're still confused and you actually are interested, maybe consider a quick google search and 90 seconds of reading?

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BigShawn424 t1_jdmy72m wrote

They did answer, but didn’t show any actual proof that these laws exist. Ive done a google search myself and couldn’t find anything.

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madeupmoniker t1_jdn8adv wrote

Spend like 5 minutes googling "drag show ban" or "drag show bomb threat". There's plenty of news out there covering these issues

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throwawaitnine t1_jdn188n wrote

This is reaching astounding levels of absurdity. It's like I'm supposed to be outraged about something I have no ideas about and I'm treated as if it's my duty as a human being to be informed about political shit that has nothing to do with me. And I have to do all my own research, because asking for an explanation is apparently verboten.

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throwawaitnine t1_jdn3xwq wrote

All I want to do is agree with you about civil liberties and all you all want to do is argue about politics on Reddit.

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doc89 t1_jdqpyys wrote

You're accused of being a troll for not being completely up to date on current cabaret law in the state of Tennessee. These people have totally lost the plot.

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NoWarButMyWar t1_jdmx304 wrote

Jesus Christ START following it because some of the most atrocious anti lgbtq laws have been getting passed in nearly half of all US states this past year. Try giving a shit about your fellow human beings. If you have twitter follow Erin Reed she’s covering nearly every single one of them.

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Indiana_Jawns t1_jdn1zcm wrote

Tennessee’s anti drag bill classified drag personages as lewd acts the same as stripping.

Florida’s don’t say gay bill is worded that a teacher can be punished for admitting acknowledging that same sex relationships exist.

Bathroom bills are hateful and do nothing other than to punish trans people.

Your statements about trans kids are misinformed.

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BigShawn424 t1_jdn3rpj wrote

Bathroom bills protect women who do not want a biological male in their bathroom. I do not understand how you think a highly impressionable child could consent to such life altering procedures and medicines.

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Indiana_Jawns t1_jdn55ws wrote

Protect them from what?

As others have told you, your are misinformed about trans children and the medical interventions available

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BigShawn424 t1_jdnbh2n wrote

The bill protects women who do not want a biological male in their bathroom. Many women do not want a biological to be in such close proximity to them while using the bathroom.

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madeupmoniker t1_jdn8ms3 wrote

Puberty blockers aren't life altering and already have extensive medical history for kids with early onset puberty. It's entirely harmless and reversible

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madeupmoniker t1_jdndk8a wrote

As I understand it, they'll go through it at the rate their body produces the hormones which were blocked. It's entirely humane and a great tool in social transitioning to allow kids to explore identity if it is the route they want to go and are supported by doctors and family

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NoWarButMyWar t1_jdn078x wrote

GRS is already illegal for children and blockers prevent trans kids from going through a puberty they don’t want and developing secondary sex characteristics making it harder to pass as an adult. Newsflash dipshit, if the state is intervening on peoples bodily autonomy and private medical decisions between doctor and patient it’s creeping into totalitarianism.

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[deleted] t1_jdnelfk wrote

“Cupcakes for breakfast” what a dumb talking point. Haha.

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Indiana_Jawns t1_jdmmujn wrote

The point is that Philadelphia can attract people fleeing the places that do discriminate

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saintofhate t1_jdmybea wrote

You do realize that if the state passes laws, it effects us too, right?

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vivaportugalhabs t1_jdn4a4p wrote

Governor Shapiro won by a landslide because Pennsylvania voters rejected insane right-wing culture war rhetoric. Oh and the PA House flipped blue, so this has no chance of passing anytime soon in Pennsylvania. It's purely virtue signaling.

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napsdufroid t1_jdmi7dx wrote

To be fair, anti-LGBT discrimination, just as anti-discrimination based on race or religion, is something anyone with more than a single brain cell would stand behind. But considering the other problems the city has, this has the appearance -- and note I said appearance -- of going for low-hanging fruit rather than addressing, say, violence, crime, or drugs.

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nalgene_wilder t1_jdmj4jg wrote

This only has that appearance to people who cannot comprehend the idea of caring about multiple things at the same time. Like this was a photo-op specifically centered around the LGBT community, of course they're going to speak on relevant issues

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nalgene_wilder t1_jdmk8xk wrote

When what?

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BigShawn424 t1_jdmu5da wrote

When are they going to speak on relevant issues.

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nalgene_wilder t1_jdmuklx wrote

...how does that make sense as a response to what I said? Are you really just that oblivious to the obvious context of my statement?

Hint: "relevant issues" means relevant to the event they were there for

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BigShawn424 t1_jdmvqki wrote

What is the context of your statement. You said “of course they’re going to speak on relevant issues”. I’m saying when.

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napsdufroid t1_jdmjiv3 wrote

Bullshit assumption, but OK

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nalgene_wilder t1_jdmk9zm wrote

You're a big boy, use your words

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napsdufroid t1_jdmmzwi wrote

Be happy to when you make sense

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nalgene_wilder t1_jdmpyul wrote

Which part do you not understand

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Tall-Ad5755 t1_jdu3f24 wrote

This is exactly my stance..like what’s the point.

These are the kind of issues that get Dems elected to major office, amirite 🤦🏾.

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EmmaSchiller t1_jdr4u86 wrote

As always, the only people complaining about us LGBTQ folks calling ourselves 'victims" or whatever, are you lot: the EXACT same people who are why they had to talk about this drag shit in the first place. Because it is YOU lot who are using drag to enact anti-LGBTQ laws all over the country. Talking about anti-LGBTQ stuff happening and existing isn't being a "victim" in the way you claim....it's just talking about our reality. Like this is happening regardless of if you accept and believe that or not.

And to be clear, drag is the clothing worn. The extremely over the top, exaggerated, flamboyant COSTUMES worn by performers. What they do IN drag is a performance. And what they are doing with the story times? They fucking reading books to children! Like....how is that so crazy or outrageous?

Drag isn't some inherently sexual thing, it's a costume like you see at the carnival or at a play. Do you think all children should be banned from the pool and beach, where tons and tons of men only wear shorts? And where women wear very revealing bathing suits?

Why do we NEED drag storytime? Because in the words of Zoeey Zephyr: "Drag is art. Drag is beautiful. Drag is important to my community. There were comments about people who went 30 years ago to drag shows. There's questions as to why are children coming to them now. I'll tell you what happened. We lived. Now we are taking some of our children, showing them our history, celebrating our art and history and the fact that we are alive today." (Source: https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1628914352161013766?t=ez9bht1y-1ejk3ml8CL3tQ&s=19, it's a great speech about the drag bills overall, you should watch it).

Kids being read to by someone in drag is just....so inoffensive. But as always, conservatives don't want kids to be around people who are different because they want kids to learn that everyone needs to be the exact same way and if you're not the same you're evil and bad and hurt children or whatever. LGBTQ parents who know drag is not bad at all, take their kids to children drag stuff like the storytimes, because it is part of our culture. It is just a part of who we are, just like a part of white redneck culture is tail gating and getting hammered while watching football or whatever.

Drag is just fun, kids love costumes. I mean seriously what kid doesn't love a costume? Except me, who was deathly afraid of large costumes like chuck e cheese but y'know....I know from experience that I am the exception and not the rule lol

It's the exact same reason why college is extremely often said to be "liberal brainwashing" by conservatives. Because at college is often the first time that conservative young adults are around people that don't look like them or believe what they believe. So they learn and grow because of that.

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