I’m looking forward to the parents eating eachother while thinking their children are the only ones who matter

if i was a student, i wouldn't want this. if i have to be in school for a MANDATORY amount of hours each day, i'd rather it be an hour earlier than an hour later. i'd rather be trapped and tired that first, earlier hour than trapped and antsy that last, later hour. i will be curious what the students think about this over the next few school years in schools that do the adjustment.

Most ridiculous part of this article is the notion that elementary teachers would leave the district if start times move. These are the highest paid teachers in PA, they’re not going anywhere.

Many studies show that being in school that early at high school age is materially bad for overall health.

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Getting up before sunrise virtually every day of high school is brutal.

Did you feel that way as a teenager?

I attended a high school where the first class started at 6:50. It sucked wet duck ass.

Me too

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whether youre there an hour earlier or an hour later, school always sucks. this isn't going to change that. i consider myself a leftist, but this type of stuff is just liberal pillow throwing. turn everyone into a soft fleshed amoeba that is guaranteed by scientific studies to be perpetually comfortable. then, once all resistance and discipline of the human spirit is extinguished, they'll start putting wires into our brains. comfort will then be programmed instead of legislated. utopia here we come!!

yea, thats why i said "if i was a student"

i understand im in the minority here, articles have come up about this before. i just wouldn't have wanted an hour taken from my afternoon. i had a job i loved, i had a band i practiced with, i had a social group. i would have an hour less of that if the schedule changed.

but like i mentioned, ill be curious to see how the students feel about it after a few school years in the schools that do implement it. maybe they will like it. or maybe there will be a "study" that determines that in the last hour of school, students are just as inattentive because of antsy teenage energy as they are inattentive in the morning because of sleep/waking up early.

When I was in HS, twice per week my day started with morning swim practice at 6 AM. I would get home at about 6:30 PM. I definitely would not have wanted a later start time.

Spring was always great because I would be home by like 3. Actual start time for school was 7:35; it never bothered me, but maybe 10% of my classmates would complain

There is a difference between school sucking because it is school, and school sucking because 16-year-old students have to be up at 5:45 in the morning to get there on time.

> i consider myself a leftist, but this type of stuff is just liberal pillow throwing

https://evidencebasedliving.human.cornell.edu/blog/the-evidence-on-kids-sleep-and-school-start-times/

School was awesome and I loved learning and socializing. I was just cripplingly tired for more than half the day.

They purposefully sent this to die because they picked a nonsensical schedule. They needed to have high schoolers go in the latest and elementary schoolers get in the earliest. High schoolers can get themselves to school largely, but working parents getting little kids to school at 9:20 was untenable on the face of it. They needed to push start times back and hour and have high schoolers go in the latest. They could even move most practices to early if necessary.

My school started at 08:00, six days a week, no snow days, ever (we'd be out for, like, 3 months out of a school year otherwise). Learning more and more about school "system" in this country and how (and why) it's handled finally connects all those dots why the stereotypes of Americans abroad is that of dumb uncultured overweight oafs.

No wonder there's a constant brain drain from overseas and abundance of H1-B visas.

Yikes.

Lol, your old man school that you walked uphill in the snow both ways to didn't serve you very well if you think we get H1-Bs for any reason other than educated foreign workers being cheaper than US workers.

The H1-B part was more or less tongue-in-cheek, but look at the tech industry today: I am sure one would rather take a pay cut than a few months of severance pay and $2400 a month unemployment.

And I agree with you: H1-Bs were meant for people with skills that could not be found stateside, but that wasn't true for a long time (and probably from the very beginning).

I live in LM. There was no schedule that would make anyone happy, but they also had two big constraints: start times for each school segment need to be 40+ minutes apart for the buses to stay on time, and the stupid "lights at LM HS field" battle that's been going on for years now.

I live in this township and have elementary and middle-school kids. Not sure about the HS parents, but judging by the school FB groups I'm in, it's not quite that bleak. There's a vocal minority are complaining, but they're usually told that their position is unreasonable pretty quick.

Who knows how that will change now that the votes were cast. I'm sure someone will get out the torches and pitchforks soon enough...

6:50?! Dang.... I had 7:25 and thought that was bad...

thats just wire brain stuff

the human animal is fragile. but its not so fragile that we need to cater to every one of its modern weaknesses.

we didn't survive as a species for 300,000 years, colonize and inhabit the planet, endure a few ices ages and become the top of the food chain because our biological body just couldn't get up an hour earlier.

i understand i sound a little crazy. but that stuff is just tossing pillows to lay down and continue atrophying on IMO

Where I grew up, elementary school started at like 7 and middle/high school at 8:20. Elementary got out at 2:30 and middle/high at 3:25