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Saw them in the burbs on my way home.

It's been a few months since I've seen them. The ones that start talking smack when you tell them no are hilarious. Oh, you're calling me an idiot for declining your obvious scam? That'll make me change my mind.

#DO NOT ANSWER THE DOOR FOR STRANGERS.

Problem solved.

Could be a package I'm expecting; there's about a 30 second window before the porch pirates following the delivery truck poach it

Huh. I was only aware of the phone scammers selling electricity. They were fun to troll at least. "Who's peco? Oh... Let me get my mom (I'm old and sound old, not sure why they didn't hang up right there).... Oh ... She's in the bathroom.... Hold on she says she's coming........ ..... .... She said she's taking a humongous shit" click

I mean….they aren’t fake. They just so happen to be peddling less than ideal electricity rate changes.

the sad thing is that they recruit older teens and young 20 somethings. make them attend 2 weeks of classes. then throw them to the wolves. years ago my church rented out space for one of these scammer groups and believe me when i say what they are doing should be illegal. i got to listen in on this group and they were telling the recruits to ignore "no soliciting" signs. and if the home owner wasnt home what time would they be home? the trainer told them even if its almost midnight they would still knock on doors.

my wife got mad at me when i told these fools to leave after they came back after i told them the first time to not come back

I like how you roll.

So who does offer the best electricity rates anyways? PECO?

Pee on your own doorstep and let the odor drive them away

Look it up for yourself. PECO is cheapest for me.

https://www.papowerswitch.com/

It changes. It’s something you need to check every 3-6 months or so, whenever your current contract runs out. I usually sign up with whoever is offering a fixed rate, no cancellation fees, and no hidden fees, assuming they are less then Peco. Right now I’m actually locked into a 36 month fixed rate at .086

If you are not busy and can, you want to waste their time as much as possible. Keep asking questions, talk slow, waste their time. Especially if you are sitting on your step, make them stand.

Thank you for this! It proves what I suspected. I'm already getting the best deal for myself.

At least the offers I get in the mail pushing full renewable are honest and open that they're more expensive, using the environment as the selling point.

Glad I could help!

>At least the offers I get in the mail pushing full renewable are honest and open that they're more expensive, using the environment as the selling point.

Well not exactly... full renewable doesn't actually mean the electricity you purchase is renewable (or that it is carbon free). Renewable in this case means they try to sell you as much renewable energy as possible, but there's not very much renewable power available in our part of the grid. So they buy renewable energy credits (REC) to cover the non-renewable electricity, they sell you. In theory, that should encourage more projects from renewable sources, but due to some complexities in the system, the RECs being purchased by individuals don't provide a good incentive to build more renewable power.

More information on RECs: https://www.urbangridsolar.com/what-is-a-rec-how-do-they-work/

This is also ignoring that not all renewables are carbon free (looking at you biomass), and that the largest source of carbon free electricity isn't renewable, and isn't supported by RECs (nuclear).

Oh, I'm not switching, partly because I don't believe them. I'm new in Philly after 15 years in Arizona, and California before that. I have horror stories about energy deregulation that would make your skin crawl. Remember Enron? Yep, victimized by them. And by the outfit that bought most of California's power plants, then took a third of them offline for the summer for "maintenance", driving prices up by limiting supply while simultaneouslydriving their costs down by shutting facilities down. And by the generators being able to charge the transmission companies several times what the transmission companies' cap was, bankrupting the transmitters while simultaneously misdirecting the blame onto them. Deregulation is a scam in and of itself, and I don't trust ANY of them.

They almost got my girlfriend to sign us up for it yesterday. Thank god she called me while the salesmen where there.

They were out in South Philly as well. I didn't open the storm door for them, but I did appreciate the young gent asking me if I was the king of the castle.

I tell them: “Either they are blind, or illiterate.” As I point my finger at my 2 &3/4 inch height lettering; “ NO SOLICITATION “ sign!

Well they also lie. I forgot which company it is, but they will tell you they are working for PECO and they need your PECO bill for some reason. Then they get your account number off the bill and switch you to their service making you think it's just some routine PECO thing.