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Chuck710Taylor t1_iwtc4ec wrote

Reply to comment by ReturnedFromExile in I called PPD two hours ago for a road rage-related assault and am still waiting for an officer to show up. by [deleted]

I don't understand that blue wall of silence crap.

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themeatbridge t1_iwtcvzs wrote

So, imagine you're in a gang, and you're getting away with literal murder, but you also have to occasionally do your job. Not because you'll get fired, but because society will begin to collapse if you don't.

Then someone comes along and says that some of you have to stop breaking some laws, like murder. You can still do pretty much whatever you want, you just can't kill people because they are poor and your gun works.

So you decide that if you can't literally murder people, you're going to stop doing your job altogether and let society collapse, because what's the point of having power in a functioning civilization if you can't abuse that power with impunity?

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banjoleletinman t1_iwtdahv wrote

PPD likes to blame Krasner for their laziness but they've been worthless much longer than he has been DA.

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[deleted] OP t1_iwtm1op wrote

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TapTheForwardAssist t1_iwtxiqo wrote

A union is supposed to protect the workers from their bosses. A police union protects the workers from the public.

A restaurant workers union has your back when your boss tries to screw you out of overtime pay, not when you beat a customer unconscious with a serving tray.

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XcheatcodeX t1_iwu9cd3 wrote

You can call it a union, it technically is, but it doesn’t operate like a normal union and it’s goals are different from a normal union.

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themeatbridge t1_iwucxwf wrote

Yeah, the Electricians union makes sure old guys get cushy jobs and don't get fired if they slack off. The teachers union ensures old teachers can still teach even though the world of knowledge has left them behind.

Unions are, on the whole, a good way for workers to get and hold power, but they are abused and those abuses should not go unchecked.

But we're talking about the police here. We're talking about murders and rapists and violent assaults, and you're not sure if I'm talking about police stopping criminals or being criminals, are you? Public safety and trust in civilization is at stake, and the Philadelphia Police Department has failed us all.

Of course conservatives are going to want to deflect blame and make it about the scary unions coming to take all your EBITDA. Regardless of how you feel about workers' rights, it's irrelevant to this conversation.

The police are corrupt and cannot be trusted. That's where we are, and it's not going to be a comfortable fix.

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ReturnedFromExile t1_iwtci7y wrote

I don’t understand that either since everywhere I’ve worked the good workers would really prefer that the bad workers were fired, or at least punished. Especially if their continued employment made my job harder or less safe. It’s a real morale killer.

But in the police force, it works differently.

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respondstostupidity t1_iwtekgl wrote

Even the good workers in the police force are stirring the soup with their dicks.

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[deleted] OP t1_iwtmlm0 wrote

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ReturnedFromExile t1_iwu9ltw wrote

i agree with you about the culture, it’s terrible and i am sympathetic. the “ us vs them” thought overrides everything, to the point that someone trying to do the right thing is completely ostracized. The “right” thing to do in that environment is to keep your fucking mouth shut.

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