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Ragoz t1_iy8e5gc wrote

Reply to comment by JWHISKY707 in Philadelphia police searching for child taken in stolen vehicle by JBizznass

It's ok to call criminal negligence for the endangerment of a child what it is.

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Sage2050 t1_iy8hfsu wrote

Leaving a child in a running car for a minute isn't criminal negligence or child endangerment no matter how much you seemingly want it to be.

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napsdufroid t1_iy8jpij wrote

It's actually illegal in PA, much as you seemingly don't want it to be

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Sage2050 t1_iy8k7et wrote

>isn't criminal negligence or child endangerment

Edit the full statute:

>§ 3701.1. Leaving an unattended child in a motor vehicle.

>(a) General rule.--A person driving or in charge of a motor vehicle may not permit a child under six years of age to remain unattended in the vehicle when the motor vehicle is out of the person's sight and under circumstances which endanger the health, safety or welfare of the child.

>(a.1) Applicability.--This section shall apply to the highways and trafficways of this Commonwealth and, for the purposes of this section only, the term "trafficways" shall include, but not be limited to, parking lots.

>(b) Penalty.--A person who violates this section commits a summary offense. It is a separate offense for each child left unattended.

So if you can see the car from inside the store it's not even illegal.

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napsdufroid t1_iy8kr6g wrote

OK. You keep believing it's not illegal because it endangers the child. So in your mind, any parent who does this is absolutely 100% blameless should something happen...as long as they can see the car, that is. And in this particular case, how do we know dad could see it?

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Sage2050 t1_iy8l1o8 wrote

This is like me saying "shoplifting isn't armed robbery" and you're going "acshually shoplifting is illegal"

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napsdufroid t1_iy8l9df wrote

Then why else would it be illegal? Riddle me that, Batman. You have an interesting sense of logic.

Edit: Try answering instead of downvoting.

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Sage2050 t1_iy8lv0m wrote

You realize criminal negligence and child endangerment are specific crimes right? They have definitions. Leaving a child in a car is a summary offense. So is jay walking and littering.

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napsdufroid t1_iy8m8wo wrote

"Pennsylvania law makes it illegal for a person to leave a child under the age of six unattended in a motor vehicle that is out of that person's sight and endangers the health, safety, or welfare of a child."

Again, WHY is it illegal in the first place? You keep avoiding that question.

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Sage2050 t1_iy8mm5h wrote

This is the post I was responding to >It's ok to call criminal negligence for the endangerment of a child what it is.

Leaving a child in a car doesn't get you charged with criminal negligence. You're just reeing about semantics because you want to win an internet fight.

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Ragoz t1_iy8nxy9 wrote

> Leaving a child in a car doesn't get you charged with criminal negligence.

It certainly can if the child wasn't brought back safely. It's based on the outcome of your reckless or negligent action.

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Sage2050 t1_iy8ocpa wrote

Yeah and speeding is a summary offense that can result in manslaughter if you cause a fatal accident.

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Ragoz t1_iy8qp2a wrote

There is nothing they can do anymore once they fucked up this badly. They aren't in control of the situation once they left their child behind. You can choose to stop speeding at any time up until you crash.

They aren't the same at all.

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napsdufroid t1_iy8rldi wrote

Don't bother, dude. He just downvotes you and comes up with another totally inappropriate "analogy"

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napsdufroid t1_iy8oe8x wrote

Uh...if doing so puts the kid in danger, there's a good chance you;re gonna get charged with negligence or endangerment if it's reported. Seems like you're the one who really wants to "win" here for whatever reason. But hey; stay in your bubble. It apparently makes you happy.

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