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HuskyBonr t1_iydek16 wrote
Philly used to require an associates degree but eliminated that to be able to hire from within the community better. So pick one. Hire more qualified candidates or include members of the community who can’t meet that standard for whatever reason.
Porky_Porkie t1_iydtmku wrote
>Hire more qualified candidates
I agree with this but where do you find these candidates?
jersey_girl660 t1_iyewq0b wrote
That’s exactly the problem. Not enough people want to be police officers in crime ridden cities without an associates degree. If you make that a requirement the recruitment pool withers significantly.
Lil_Napkin t1_iyditge wrote
This is a pretty crazy take I don't think you really understand how this works and is overcomplicating things though you have SOME good points lol. With the crime rates so high and the current perception of police in the country it would literally be impossible for them to higher capable numbers with degrees. I don't think you really thought this through hence your dislikes. Statistically speaking cops are OVERWORKED and overwhelmed. Especially in places like Philadelphia where crime is so common to the point where police can't be at every single crime scene in a timely manner because of multiple variables and its not because they are lazy.
Do you know anybody that works for the Philly PD? Sound like you made alot of assumptions based off a few bad apples. We literally don't have enough personnel to handle every murder case with alot of efficiency because so many shootings happen! Think about that. I wouldn't even say it's the cops it's more so the people in the community that's problem we need to tackle.
Edit:I'm also gonna add that police officer murders are up 59% which is another factor why it would be harder to get more cops with degrees. Also, a degree wouldn't make a cop any better. As someone who been in the military for 6 years a degree DOES NOT make someone better fit for the job. I've seen alot of college specialists with no common sense or even the bravery the guys without a degree have. It comes down to the individual. These are selfless jobs. School isn't going to teach you that.
mistersausage t1_iyduigi wrote
Lots of these reactions come from everyday interactions with cops. Ones who refuse to take police reports for minor quality of life crimes, the mandatory cop at every construction site going on their phone in the car, and general asshole attitude by plenty of cops.
jersey_girl660 t1_iyewzdk wrote
They don’t have time to properly deal with those types of crimes in rich suburbs who have barely any violent crime. Is it any surprise a severely understaffed department in one of America’s most violent cities doesn’t have the time?
mistersausage t1_iyf6dtw wrote
In 2010 I filed a police report online for a stolen bag in San Francisco. It's 2022 why are they all still done on carbon paper here?
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TrentonMakes t1_iydods6 wrote
Why would anyone want to be a cop here or any major city is beyond me. For most qualified applicants and hard workers departments like Philly are either stepping stones or just a way to get the certification to move on to smaller and better agencies.
As far as sitting on their ass and not doing anything big city departments including Philly are restricted in what they can do. One example in Philly is they started this program where they’re paired up with a trooper who isn’t restricted by Philly policies and consent decrees to actually make proactive efforts which won’t get thrown out in court because of local policy violations.
Porky_Porkie t1_iydthxc wrote
Not sure why the downvotes but everything you said is true.
shark_skin_suit t1_iydncri wrote
>There needs to be complete restructuring of requirements to be a cop - 4 year degree in sociology/psychology/criminal justice before entering police academy would be a start.
I agree with your sentiments. They typically will not hire people above a certain IQ point, with their rational being that someone smarter would get 'bored of the job, leave, and the training would be a waste'
Lunamothknits t1_iydohjg wrote
Degrees don’t correlate to higher IQ ranges.
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Lil_Napkin t1_iye5k9m wrote
Cite your source
shark_skin_suit t1_iyea37t wrote
https://www.yourtango.com/news/police-high-iq-max-limit-degrees-police-reform
there are links to a few court cases in here, including President Johnson's 1967 Commission on Law Enforcement and the Administration of Justice which recommended that all police officers nationwide have a bachelor’s degree by 1982. Similar to The Great Society, that notion was ignored.
Porky_Porkie t1_iydu3ad wrote
>will not hire people above a certain IQ point, with their rational being that someone smarter would get 'bored of the job, leave, and the training would be a waste'
Yep, very common practice.
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