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Scumandvillany t1_iweix7o wrote

This is a CMX2.5 property, which means it can be 55' by right, and 70 + with bonuses, first floor commercial. The fucked up thing is all other corners are CMX4, which is sub skyscraper zoning. This corner should absolutely be CMX5, skyscraper by right. The trolley, the sub both have stops here. Thanks Darrel Clarke!

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MANDATORY SKYSCRAPER

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blue-and-bluer t1_iweoldt wrote

It seems like McDonald’s has been closing a lot of locations in the city lately.

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--jawnday-- t1_iweq173 wrote

Are there any McDonald’s locations left on broad street anymore? The three that I usually think of are all closed now.

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alittlemouth t1_iweqp8t wrote

Replying to phillyunk (#531,697)

He said “build very tall [affordable] housing in place of this empty business” and the city said “no we can’t because we said a really little bit of this property can’t be a tall building a long time ago and it would be too much paperwork to change that, so here’s an empty McDonald’s. Enjoy!”

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DougSethlas t1_iwer5kb wrote

Replying to phillyunk (#531,697)

The zoning of the property limits its development potential and is underzoned compared to the other corners that have zoning more appropriate for the area/location. Darrel Clarke is the local city council member for this area and the head of city council which has some say over zoning districts.

I think we can all agree that this McDonald’s and gas station/convenience store wasn’t the best use of this land, especially given the recent development in the area. I am curious to see how development will work here with at least two underground gas storage tanks. Lot of land remediation.

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RogueDeckard t1_iwetbi0 wrote

I live across the street and didn't even notice. I hate McDonald's and have adhd tho so it makes sense.

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broseidonguy t1_iweubw8 wrote

Real ones know this was a top 5 worst McDonalds location on the east coast

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69_420_bonerjamz t1_iwevocg wrote

It’s wild how many closed businesses are on Broad. Almost like there’s something fundamentally wrong with our city that one of the most heavily traveled streets can’t even support fast food

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buzz8588 t1_iwewsmm wrote

Oh man, I used to walk there to redeem my “Phillies win, you score a free chicken sandwich” every now and then. Bummer.

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Pingpaul t1_iwewxpj wrote

I’m still waiting for the wawa on Aramingo to disappear

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DurkHD t1_iwexz43 wrote

I'll never forget when I waited an hour for my Doordash from here only for the store to close at 10:30 p.m. because it was shot up. RIP

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brk1 t1_iwey3of wrote

Had many a windshield washed there.

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saturnshighway t1_iwezhfu wrote

Nooooo one of the last ones left and the best one :(

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DJRoombasRoomba t1_iwf05bp wrote

Are there any McDonalds left in the area anymore? This one's closed, the one at 17th and Walnut is closed, the one at 40th (?) and Chestnut is closed or is closing very soon.

I was trying to think of somewhere to get something quick to eat near Center City recently and the Wendys and Popeyes at 16th and Chestnut are all I could come up with. The Chic-Fil-A in Liberty Place closed too. Burger King 8th and Market closed. Wawa closed. Very few places to get a slice of pizza or something like that

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TenaciousLilMonkey t1_iwf1j04 wrote

Only went there once, and it was a fine experience. Seems I was one of the few that felt that way.

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SovietRobotDad t1_iwf4asr wrote

Something about the absolute piss service on Broad st. made it sort of authentic and endearing. RIP 🙏

Now it is the Columbus blvd location to take up the crown

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OkStructure3 t1_iwf60bz wrote

The checkers and KFC across the street were just as bad.

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d4b3ss t1_iwf6y8c wrote

Replying to DJRoombasRoomba (#532,514)

I would be very surprised if the McDonalds actually on Temple's campus closed. On Broad after Diamond before Susquehanna. I have zero idea why anyone would ever actually go to this one. I used to like McDonalds well enough but this location was total shit. Maybe the worst ever. The other one is like maybe 6 blocks north. Easy call to make.

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Kinoblau t1_iwf7lxf wrote

If the Checkers is still open it's fine, the better restaurant won.

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redvision4 t1_iwf817b wrote

I still miss the White Castle that was at Broad & Girard .. RIP

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DanHassler0 t1_iwf828o wrote

Replying to blue-and-bluer (#531,798)

The one in university city should be closing any day now if it hasn't already. Permits for the new building have been coming in. None left in center city, although McDonald's still owns the lot that burned down.

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DanHassler0 t1_iwf8gnt wrote

Replying to DJRoombasRoomba (#532,514)

40th and Chestnut will likely reopen when the new building is done in a year or two, the plans distinctly call for McDonald's to be the sole ground floor tenant, seems to have a walk up window like Shake Shack too.

The one in Walnut that burned down is still owned by McDonald's, although I've seen no progress on rebuilding.

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soofqueen t1_iwfa84h wrote

Never ate here but they served my coworker raw chicken… like only cooked on the very outside. Just seeing the picture made me gag 🤢

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tkdsplitter t1_iwfa9ps wrote

The ODB McDonald’s in Grays Ferry got boarded up suddenly then torn down like 2 months ago without a word. There’s now a brand new McDonald’s in its place about to open. I go to the fresh grocer there every once in a while and was blown away watching it disappear then reappear.

I wonder if that’s what’s about to happen here.

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iPoopAtChu t1_iwffc2h wrote

Replying to Pingpaul (#532,304)

Which one? The one right before the 95 on-ramp? Their lease is for at minimum another 12 years and they're paying about $50k a month for rent, not including costs like property taxes and property insurance. Something REALLY bad would have to happen for them to close down prematurely.

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thot_bryan t1_iwfghha wrote

Replying to Simply827 (#533,343)

Someone was painting the building entirely black like.. two months ago but that’s the last i’ve seen of anyone in that building. Since then it’s been spray painted and damaged again with seemingly no movement from whoever bought it lol so who knows

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TheBebsey t1_iwfgr21 wrote

Replying to tkdsplitter (#533,117)

If they are, they're not in a hurry. Gray's Ferry was demolished and the new one put up in what feels like record time (although every building site I've been around has taken them 2-3 years to get something even close to resembling a building, let alone being finished). They had a table out on the sidewalk for hiring applications last week, too, so they must be close?

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KnittedKnight t1_iwfii9u wrote

Can you blame them, corporations don't want to be in Philly anymore. Starbucks, Wawa, now McDonald's. It's going to be an absolute food desert. If you don't take care of your community things leave. Edit: word

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SouthPhilly_215 t1_iwfnmhw wrote

Careful… I was tryna figure out if anyone in the business, political, or arts community could find a way to reopen the movie theater in South Philly (United Artists Riverview) and was told I’m “entitled”… lol. “Nobody is entitled to a movie theater”, they said… Seems like this sub is being nicer to your McDonald’s. In any case, sorry for your loss.

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keitroll t1_iwfp092 wrote

Replying to DanHassler0 (#532,988)

I had a feeling the UC one was not long for this earth, but I've enjoyed the few late-night trips I've had going there in the last few months. Real old school aesthetic you just don't get anymore.

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erice3r t1_iwfup2t wrote

this McDonald’s had the best crispy chicken sandwich I’ve ever had, and the crispiest pipin hot fries money could buy.

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catfish-jawn t1_iwfv2nu wrote

Replying to DJRoombasRoomba (#532,514)

Popeyes & Panda Express are still at 10th & Market and there's a taco bell like a block up and over at 11th and Filbert I think. then down 11th towards Chinatown there's a Crown Fried Chicken and a pizza/cheesesteak spot across the street from that. no McDonald's tho.

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erdtirdmans t1_iwfwb2v wrote

Replying to Pingpaul (#532,304)

Aramingo and Sergeant was their biggest store in terms of volume only a few years ago. I'm sure it's down the list with the Aramingo and Wheatsheaf one open, but I don't think it's going anywhere

That said, they need to get the security guard back and figure something out with the police cause that shit's been lighting up my Citizen app the last year or so

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blodreina_kumWonkru t1_iwfxhdr wrote

This place was a legit petri dish. The amount of flies in the bathroom HAD to have been a health violation.

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fioraflower t1_iwg0br3 wrote

I lived about two blocks from this last year when I lived off campus at Temple. I still made the trek to diamond st if i wanted mcdonald’s because this one was so incomprehensibly terrible.

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conorb619 t1_iwg2wz8 wrote

Replying to broseidonguy (#532,161)

Is it ranked ahead or below the one at Temple, because your boy ordered a burger there once circa 2008, got back to the dorm, and it was cheese on dry bread, no meat no sauce, nothing.

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CharlieKelly_Esq t1_iwg4z7r wrote

Replying to Scumandvillany (#531,431)

The issue is the land at this corner cannot support the weight of a taller building. I spend a lot of time down in the sewers foraging for rings and coins and directly under this spot is a hub for all the sewers in Philadelphia. Twice a day, a giant wall of water passes through here. (None of this is true.)

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stonkautist69 t1_iwg531e wrote

Replying to DanHassler0 (#532,988)

Yeah that one is closing and the one near washington and grays ferry closed about 4 months ago, but they’re almost done rebuilding the new one. U city one is also being rebuilt as part of the new construction as well

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CatByAnyNameBeAsFluf t1_iwg5n3p wrote

Now there are only 3 McDonald’s between temple hospital and Fishtown. End of an era.

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Scumandvillany t1_iwg9q9d wrote

Replying to tkdsplitter (#533,117)

McDonald's has its own vetted construction contractors that it uses for builds. A lot of these firms sole business is rebuilding McDonalds quickly and efficiently. I knew a guy and that's literally all his company worked on.

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thecw t1_iwgbasw wrote

Replying to 69_420_bonerjamz (#532,233)

> Almost like there’s something fundamentally wrong with our city that one of the most heavily traveled streets can’t even support fast food

Honestly, this should be a feature. 1-story fast food with a drive through is the worst possible use for a main road in a dense urban core on top of a subway.

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AtlUnJtd t1_iwggt6u wrote

Yeah but so many fish sandwiches here. Thank you for your service. RiP

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InnsmouthConspirator t1_iwghj3n wrote

Can someone tell me why there is no Burger King / McDonalds in any center city location? I would think these franchises would be very popular and would have multiple locations similar to Starbucks. But both the Center City locations (McDonalds on Walnut St. and Burger King on Market St.) closed shortly after the pandemic in 2020.

Thanks.

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dc122186 t1_iwgm54k wrote

Replying to KnittedKnight (#535,657)

You think this McDonald's closed because it got looted? Even if it did (It didn't), you know all of that happened over two and a half years ago? Do you just type words at random and then hit submit?

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go_berds t1_iwgp0fq wrote

Replying to cazzhmir (#532,498)

Last time I was there they were all fighting over who got to go on break next and the manager said “Jesus Christ just give this guy his food and we’ll close for an hour and you can all go on break. Just stop fucking bitching”

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dc122186 t1_iwgqzon wrote

Replying to wheres__my__towel (#535,961)

Oh I'm well aware. This was a frequent bathroom stop of mine after Union Transfer shows back when I was in my 20s. It's absolutely a good thing that this location doesn't exist anymore, but the guy I was responding to is painting this as a sign of the downfall of Philadelphia 😂

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dragonflyzmaximize t1_iwgt7gn wrote

This place was wild. I picked up a friend from out of town there once, because he was nearby and needed a place to rest while he waited for me. I don't think I'd ever driven in there before, it looked like it'd been bombed (there were craters in the parking lot I had to swerve around).

The faucet to the bathroom was just like, running, you couldn't shut it off. The door didn't close, it didn't have a doorknob it was just a hole.

The manager was talking to the staff huddled in a circle about something like not stealing or some shit. They kind of looked at me as I walked past and then didn't say anything.

It was probably one of the only places I've been in where if I went in to order food I'd leave because I knew it was going to either be absolutely inedible in some way or another.

RIP tho.

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SilcoEkkoViktor t1_iwgu6w0 wrote

where else will i go for a large sprite that takes 30 mins to get 😔 (endearing)

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Waru_ t1_iwgww5r wrote

This is how I feel about the one at broad and Carpenter. It was definitely one of the worst McDonald’s ever and there was a fight pretty much every time I went in. But the convenience factor was way up there. Then one day it was just gone

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jerryphoto t1_iwh7s0x wrote

My mom used to live on Leopard St back in the 90's. Every morning she'd go to that Mcdonalds, get a cup of coffee, and talk to the other old people who would all hang out there. Her house was a little thing, with a yard she fixed up and planted flowers everywhere. In it's place now is some giant 3 story ugly grey thing with no yard. That's Fishtown in a nutshell to me.

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Asanokyo t1_iwhbyrd wrote

Damn, I just found out that the Checkers on 2nd and Lehigh is shut down and now this McD’s? Thought they’d be there forever.

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sippycup21 t1_iwhcl27 wrote

I only went there once and Im pretty sure I got somebody else’s order. I definitely have a photo of the place boarded up, but with “We Are Open” spraypainted on the boards.

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Sage2050 t1_iwhd22x wrote

They also closed the McDonald's in grays ferry by the super fresh and there's no more with easy access for me during the work day

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Jimboslice85 t1_iwhe9i7 wrote

Not Philly but the one on 611 on horsham is terrible

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TheBookofCheat t1_iwheeeg wrote

Not even a top 5 worst in Philly. cracks knuckles

-Broad & Snyder -40th n Walnut -Broad & Hunting Park -American & Erie -Castor & Aramingo

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southwest40x4 t1_iwhfcod wrote

Replying to stonkautist69 (#534,555)

I was coming off an overnight shift on Sunday morning and was famished. Took the long way to stop at that grays ferry McD’s and was super bummed it was closed. Got South Philly Barbacoa though, so I guess it worked out for the best.

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imanAholebutimfunny t1_iwhlmhv wrote

Lot remains empty and unbought just because of how shitty the mickey d's was.

The aura still surrounds the location somehow

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MyGoodn3ssMyGuinness t1_iwi2zgk wrote

God I remember needing something from the little gas station convenience store thing next door. The McDonalds was closed at this point because of the riots, and when I walked up to the store I just opened the door and it was all empty and abandoned. My brother and I dipped immediately because we had no idea who might be inside. Met many strange characters on Broad & Girard back in the day. Used to live on 15th nearby.

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Scumandvillany t1_iwj1zid wrote

Replying to KhandakerFaisal (#536,348)

It means the property on this corner is zoned in a way that allows mid rise residential with commercial first floor by right. The other three corners are zoned CMX4, which can be quite a bit taller, like 11 stories by right with bonuses, or 22 stories with half lot coverage. Or so. My point is clarke SUCKS because he's responsible for this disparity, and furthermore he's responsible why this mega corner with subway stops /trolley stops and wide streets on both sides isn't all CMX5(skyscraper zoning) by right, as broad street should be from Oregon to the boulevard

Hence:

MANDATORY SKYSCRAPERS

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Popular-Newt-1603 t1_iwj3qia wrote

end of an era...when I think McDonalds in its prime with the frosted cups I think of this one for me growing up on Cecil B

me and my fiance went to this one last year I think and it was hanging on for dear life

somebody got their order wrong 2 cars up got up and caused a fuss at the window and a manager had to come out to the drive thru and I believe I saw a knife almost used..so that was nice

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Ng3me t1_iwjftfr wrote

Replying to blue-and-bluer (#531,798)

Property is too valuable and people have too many better options especially the fast casual places like Shake Shack that are supplanting traditional fast food. Fast food in general is being pushed out by those two facts.

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canadacentennialbaby t1_iwjlq6q wrote

Replying to TheBookofCheat (#537,532)

The Broad and Snyder McDonald's was something. I think it even had a play place in it? You know a place is bad when they can't lure you in with that wonderful fry smell they were piping into the street.

Anyone remember the McDonalds at 6th and South? It was the only clean bathroom around, so someone in your group would go in for cookies and the bathroom, and then hold the door for the next person.

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Quick_slip t1_iwjnw4m wrote

Good riddance. Hated this particular store with a passion.

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electric_creamsicle t1_iwlfdzt wrote

Replying to patchworky (#544,953)

I've only been inside once and it took something like 20 minutes to get my food. But the drive thru usually takes less than 10.

I really only get McDonalds when driving a bunch so my go-to is to go through the drive thru at this one on my way to 95.

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embarrassmyself t1_iwmk2zh wrote

I was in a really long line during a snow day and a group of four loud ass girls jumped in front of me when I was finally 2nd in line after waiting for around 30-45 mins. I tried to step around them saying I had been there and they all starting screaming at me and threatening to beat my ass and a security guard said I should just go. Lmao never went back… that was like 10 years ago

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IllustriousArcher199 t1_iwq4jrz wrote

Go to the little diner across the street on Girard. They have a great breakfast and the best home fries. Happy Joy!

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