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nsweeney11 t1_ix954np wrote

Reply to comment by DoubleDoobie in An indoor-outdoor bar for humans and dogs is coming to Fairmount this spring by ColdJay64

Speaking as someone who owned a reactive dog- you don't take them to places like this. It's very stressful for "literal nightmares." Hopefully you notice that your friends with less than well behaved dogs don't take them to dog parks or areas where humans and dogs mix like this.

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DoubleDoobie t1_ix95dc3 wrote

Oh I agree 100%, but in reality I rarely see that. It's usually the standard "I swear he/she never does that" when something inevitably happens. I wonder if they'll make people sign liability waivers?

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nsweeney11 t1_ix95hxq wrote

I think your friends are just bad dog owners. There's an extensive community in Reddit for reactive and fearful and even mean dogs.

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DoubleDoobie t1_ix95pfq wrote

It's not just my friends. IMO, most dog owners are "bad" or even average dog owners at best. Covid-induced dog ownership hasn't helped.

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nsweeney11 t1_ix95tp1 wrote

You specifically mentioned your friends. You don't know most dog owners. I think maybe you're generalizing based on your friends

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DoubleDoobie t1_ix95yra wrote

I also walk around the streets of Philly, but okay

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nsweeney11 t1_ix960ya wrote

Wow what a coincidence, so do I.

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crispydukes t1_ix9qoj4 wrote

And most are bad dog owners. Honestly. I am far from a "good" dog owner, but most everyone else is worse.

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DunieMunny t1_ixanbm8 wrote

I have seen variations of this in other cities where it has worked well. Lucky Dog in Brooklyn is probably the closest, though this appears to be quite a bit larger. Dog PPL in Santa Monica is all-outdoor, but very much has the boozy bar scene vibe when you're there. I have also heard of similar places to this in Austin and Denver, but have not been there firsthand.

This model will get more and more popular as the 20-30 crowd (me included) are 'raising' dogs instead of children, and also not doing pretty much anything without a bar involved. It will all come down to how well they police the dogs and owners. Dogs add another variable, but it's one that can be controlled for and I've never actually experienced an issue in the countless hours I've spent across the two spots above.

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