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RoughRhinos OP t1_izei4hd wrote

According to new report from JLL on prime urban retail corridors—entitled City Retail 2023 and released at the start of ICSC in NYC—domestic tourism now is exceeding pre-pandemic levels in six major US markets. In a comparison of September 2022 and September 2019 statistics, Miami (129%); Boston (120%); Los Angeles (117%), NYC (112%); Philadelphia (108%); and Chicago (101%) all have exceeded the 2019 level for domestic tourism.

The top three US markets for international arrivals are well behind their totals for 2019, according to ITA numbers, with NYC dropping from 13.5M visitors in 2019 to 5.1M in 2021; Miami, going from a pre-pandemic level of 8.3M to 3.4M in the same period; and Los Angeles dipping to 2.6M from a 2019 tally of 7.6M.

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Dryheavemorning t1_izej8w7 wrote

Maybe with China easing out of its lockdown we can boost those international numbers back too. Prior to Covid there were always throngs of Chinese tourists in the Independence Mall area.

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juandonna t1_izep2nd wrote

I read this as domestic terrorism at first oops

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wakaflockafantastic t1_izer4wc wrote

Lol, I initially read this as "Domestic Terrorism" and I couldn't figure out why everyone was so positive in the comments.

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cielorossa t1_izf53vt wrote

>an retail corridors—entitled City Retail 2023 and released at the start of ICSC in NYC—domestic tourism now is exceeding pre-pandemic levels in six major US markets. In a comparison of September 2022 and September 2019 statistics, Miami (129%); Boston (120%); Los Angeles (117%

The real question is why do people visit Miami? There is nothing but beaches and clubs! And there are better (and uncontaminated) beaches in Puerto Rico...

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PhillyAccount t1_izf5nfe wrote

Note that the report focuses on retail activity on Walnut Street and East Market.

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phillybeardo t1_izfb955 wrote

For all the shit that Florida (rightfully) gets, I've always seen Miami as an oasis of sorts. I went to UM, so maybe I'm biased, but it really is a gorgeous town, and it's great just for a stay (I couldn't really get into living there full-time, so I moved back home after my stint).

If you're into feeling glamorous for a week or so, and if you're into warm sunshine and blue-green waters (that sometimes feels like a bathtub), it's very much perfect.

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YoungHeartOldSoul t1_izfcqzy wrote

I initially read tourism as terrorism and was very confused as to why no one seemed to be talking like they were living in a warzone.

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cielorossa t1_izfcz6p wrote

I don't know if you've been back to Miami lately - but the traffic is insane and the quality of life is not the best. I prefer Philly a thousand times, and the Caribbean beaches - but I'm into the laid-back & not plastic vibe.

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mynameisntjeffrey t1_izfxemj wrote

That’s how it is with most florida cities. They’re incredible to visit for a week, but living there usually just means submitting yourself to a lifestyle of traffic ridden suburbia in weather that gets really boring and oppressively miserable after a year. Ironically I spend more time outside now living here than I did there, just because the swampy stickiness isn’t worth it.

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OHIO_TERRORIST t1_izg63kh wrote

I read this as domestic terrorism for some reason

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shichimi-san t1_izhd45s wrote

I misread that as terrorism. Sadly, it’s probably also true.

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billybeat t1_izhqbot wrote

World Series run probably helped!

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cielorossa t1_izjzzfh wrote

I invite you to look at the Miami thread to understand the problems faced by families in Miami on a daily basis. Quality of life is better in Philly - but the business is in Miami. That is why I am forced to spend time here - by the Surfside beach. And I still prefer Philly.

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