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Electrical_List_2125 t1_j66fjjk wrote

Reply to comment by HotPoptartFleshlight in Chance of riots tonight? by [deleted]

I don’t think it’s that weird. There were Black slave drivers. There have always been all kinds of people that sell out their own people. See: women who specifically target and tear other women down in the workplace, etc. That’s much less serious but it’s the same principle

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31November t1_j66ghb5 wrote

I get what you're trying to go for, and if you want to abstract this to the point of "police culture is furthering white supremacy" then I think you are coincidentally right to a degree, but I would still argue that the main point or the main toxin to police culture (that these five black officers upheld) is to protect the rich.

White people tend to be the rich, but the focus is on wealth, not race.

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Electrical_List_2125 t1_j66hu2i wrote

I don’t like seeing people limit it to a class thing because it feels like they’re erasing the race piece of it when the race piece is foundational too. I see it as based in both, money and race.

Edit: I think I’m trying to say- race stuff feels so tied up with class anyway. In the US Black people are a permanent underclass. The country assigned people to be slaves and then to be under resourced after that (through policy decisions like blocking Black ppl from home ownership, blocking ppl from good jobs, etc.) Race is the way they assigned people’s class so it feels weird to just take that out of it when it matters- I don’t want to erase who is doing the worst with the police and why the way “it’s just about class” feels like it’s erasing it, does that make sense?

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31November t1_j66kl68 wrote

Thank you for explaining your POV, and I think I understand what you're trying to say.

I agree that there is so much overlap that it does feel like effectively a race-war - I mean, you live here in Philly, look at the demographics of Kensington v. Society Hill - so I guess trying to draw the two (race versus class) out too much can be counter-productive, even if I personally would weigh one over the other.

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Electrical_List_2125 t1_j66l7zw wrote

Yeah! I think you’re dead on. The overdrawing one or the other is the issue. I have noticed what you’re talking about with demographics in Philly and it has made me kinda moderate my past viewpoint that race was everything in terms of who gets what - in Philly it’s clear that that’s not true. Thanks for your thoughts

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