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Rsubs33 t1_j3ahsav wrote

Ricci's on 11th Old Fashioned Italian Hoagie was my go to when I lived in the city.

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AgentDaxis t1_j3c8xxs wrote

This 100%.

Probably THE best old school hoagie shop in town.

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Mike81890 t1_j3cm2cw wrote

Thanks I'm gonna have to go to Ricci's today now

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cfh294 t1_j3cic3b wrote

Mouth watered reading this comment

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MrSchaudenfreude t1_j3dvu5i wrote

Oh yeah they make a great sandwich, with those cheese crumbles. Badass

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sakamake OP t1_j3enywk wrote

Whenever I'm near that area it's to hit up Primas, but I will be sure to check out Ricci's next time I'm there.

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Rsubs33 t1_j3f17lz wrote

If you love sharp provolone I highly recommend the Old Fashioned Italian. Has super sharp crumbly provolone and roasted red peppers. Their reg Italian and other hoagies are great too tho. I moved away two years ago for work and still crave it. Got it last time I was in town tho.

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Notmiefault t1_j3abvgh wrote

Martha's a hipster bougie joint with authentic nothing.

It's also fucking delicious. Their bread is amazing.

I haven't been to Parkway Corner, looks tasty.

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porkchameleon t1_j3ad3vg wrote

> It's also fucking delicious. Their bread is amazing.

Bread makes or breaks a hoagie/cheesesteak most of the time, but there's no way of saving whatsoever whatever it is pictured in the photo at the bottom.

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colefly t1_j3cqjyj wrote

A good bread with nothing in it beats a mound of meat on stale sponge, any day

That said. Mound of meat AND good bread is what I expect and get from ANY dirty back-corner deli in Philly

The more annoyed they guy behind the deli counter is with you daring to order a sandwich, the better the sandwich

The hairier the arms of the guy behind the deli counter , the better the sandwich

The harder it is to place the accent of the guy behind the deli counter , the better the sandwich

The closer that rat traps are sold to the deli counter, the better the sandwich

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sakamake OP t1_j3ait5a wrote

The bread was by far the best part of the sandwich but I had to take 90% of the lettuce off before I could even taste it. Parkway Corner is basically just your standard Boars Head deli spot but I've come to appreciate them more and more this year.

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medicated_in_PHL t1_j3agrtl wrote

Best Italian hoagie is somewhere between those two. Parkway has way too much meat, Martha’s has way too little. The perfect Italian hoagie is a balance of all ingredients and neither of those have it.

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BureaucraticHotboi t1_j3awrfd wrote

Can’t lie the best Italian hoagie I’ve had recently (and I live in south Philly with access to many great hoagies) was from Liberty Kitchen in fishtown. Absolutely expensive but holy shit those dudes put their whole elbow in that hoagie.

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Thunderhank t1_j3bgpoy wrote

They have a good one, the spread is real nice and the bread is great. Best Italian in Fishtown’s got to go to Castellino’s though.

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Void24 t1_j3c0l9m wrote

It’s Dans and it’s not close.

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Jason_S_88 t1_j3cf9kl wrote

I really didn't like Dan's when I went, I know.its old school but old school doesn't have to mean dirty and dingy

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Void24 t1_j3chcg1 wrote

I go there to buy sandwiches. Not for the ambiance, which isn’t even that bad.

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Thunderhank t1_j3cn7n6 wrote

I love the sandwiches and the ambiance. Love seeing Dan sit in the back and read his paper. Feels like the 50s in there.

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Void24 t1_j3cnmn8 wrote

100% and the lady that is usually making the sandwiches is so nice.

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BureaucraticHotboi t1_j3dp565 wrote

You just reminded me that the spread was really the thing that put it over the top into oh fuck territory

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thelatherdaddy t1_j3axviv wrote

Re: your hoagie v sub response…

To my knowledge, one doesn’t have more or less meat than the other as the distinguishing factor. More or less, it’s regional with some minor differences as you detailed. We will never know because in their utter confidence in defense of their position, they posted a response and then swiftly deleted their account. Classic.

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sakamake OP t1_j3ajojg wrote

I understand the importance of a good ratio when constructing the ideal sandwich, but I respectfully disagree on this one.

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Honest_Elephant t1_j3apwmm wrote

I, personally, am grossed out by thick, homogenous layers of fleshy lunch meats. That top hoagie is a big no-go for me. The bottom is too much lettuce, but I would still prefer it because it wouldn't give me the heebie jeebies

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phillyEMdoc t1_j3bguuu wrote

Yeah the only way I want that much meat in my mouth per bite is

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Dent7777 t1_j3blmtu wrote

When you got your jaw around a nice juicy cock

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phillyEMdoc t1_j3bloqy wrote

Whoa bro I meant a cheesesteak ok

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Revolutionary_Bee700 t1_j3b4ctw wrote

I feel the same way about lunch meat. Especially if the texture is combined with sticky, slimy mayo. Gag.

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respondstostupidity t1_j3arv81 wrote

What you're looking for is a sub then, not a hoagie.

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thelatherdaddy t1_j3awap8 wrote

Fairly certain that is not the distinction.

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BureaucraticHotboi t1_j3ax78t wrote

Correct I come from sub country. Subs and hoagies are more or less interchangeable. I will say a hoagie is more specific than just being on a long roll. The shredded lettuce, tomatoes and oil or mayo is more specific here than in the northeast US. Subs are just anything on a long roll. Hoagies mean a certain dressing on a long roll in my experience

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respondstostupidity t1_j3awu0p wrote

The hoagie was supposed to be filling enough for poor workers which meant loading it with Italian meats and cheeses. If you want a bread salad, go eat a sub and don't ever try to correct me again.

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The_Prince1513 t1_j3bgx5t wrote

> don't ever try to correct me again.

lmao internet tough guy over here. How’s 8th grade going bro?

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Rahawk02 t1_j3c5kba wrote

Are you sure he's not looking for a hero?

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nnp1989 t1_j3ahngi wrote

Let’s be honest, those both look like ass.

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drbhrb t1_j3au2jw wrote

Right? I was trying to figure out what point the picture was trying to make.

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Prancemaster t1_j3azxkm wrote

Both of these sandwiches are ass and you used Comic Sans for the text. Is this a bit??

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holographiclife t1_j3b53v0 wrote

To each their own but frankly that I find that phonebook of ham terrifying

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Tetsuo-Kaneda t1_j3alrai wrote

If I wanted that much meat in my mouth I’d go to woodys

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LeetPokemon t1_j3acjfk wrote

This is like when people get fired up about Pizzeria Beddia being expensive. Galaxy brain take

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SovietChewbacca t1_j3ahwqz wrote

Had dinner there on Wednesday. Pizza was a solid 6 maybe 6.5.

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skip_tracer t1_j3annqx wrote

oh come on. Beddia is banging, it's just cool to hate especially since Dave Fuckboi rolled through and was lukewarm to it.

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porkchameleon t1_j3aczwy wrote

20% automatic gratuity for food pickup is a 100% sure way the place will never get my business.

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Living-Pineapple-589 t1_j3agrvm wrote

Agreed. If you want 20% more for your product to pay for staff, just build it into the price. But they won’t because people would balk at their prices altogether.

They specifically put it in as auto-gratuity to guilt trip you and make it too awkward to cancel the order or say something.

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porkchameleon t1_j3aie4u wrote

Oh, I would go full Harry David (from Curb Your Enthusiasm) on them for something like this: we already have bullshit sales tax on virtually everything, so we almost never pay advertised price, and now this?

Okay. Okay...

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filladellfea t1_j3by50g wrote

all must bow down to your marinucci's god

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Asanokyo t1_j3c53lx wrote

Never thought I’d see Marinucci’s shouted out on Reddit. Love that place the hoagies are amazing.

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Rahawk02 t1_j3c4s5s wrote

I've passed by that place probably 10,000 times and never went in until a couple months ago and I've been there about a dozen times since.

Also, how's the chicken salad I don't like a lot of places chicken salad and I'd hate to pass on one of the ones that I know I'll enjoy like the Big Rick or the one with the fried chicken lunchmeat and hot cheese.

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Skigamajig t1_j3i0zfd wrote

Their chicken salad is pretty solid. So is their potato salad, very good. Honestly feel like they can’t miss.

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TapWater28 t1_j3dazw8 wrote

The best hoagies in Philly are below Snyder Ave. Pastaficio, P&S, MiPals, Big Nick's, Jeannie's, and Original Primo's are all stellar.

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TapWater28 t1_j3dkla3 wrote

Yeah, the amount of people hyping up this lettuce sandwich on the bottom is frightening.

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J_Blomez t1_j3f1znw wrote

Pastaficio's regular Italian hoagie is the gold standard for a well constructed sandwich IMO. The ratios are perfect and everything is sliced to just the right thickness

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Character_Macaron133 t1_j3fgvtk wrote

Little Nicks*….my cousins buddy owns the spot. Hoagies there are so damn good. His uncle is Big Nick who owns the corner store.

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sakamake OP t1_j3eqzkg wrote

Yeah sometimes I feel like my biggest issue here is that I just never get that far south. Thinking it's probably worth a trip just for that alone.

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coolkid9 t1_j3jykpu wrote

You forgot the king, with daily fresh baked bread, not shipped in... (Angelo's)

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ItsBobsledTime t1_j3bo71y wrote

Martha also pays their employees well. Can’t speak to Parkway. But that’s probably the cost of actually providing a living wage to restaurant staff.

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_bangaroo t1_j3dhn6q wrote

I’m going to blow your mind but you pay the employees wages with every transaction you make in every store

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ItsBobsledTime t1_j3cdxmy wrote

What’s it matter to you if the price is in the food or the gratuity if you have to pay it?

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Phl_worldwide t1_j3bu177 wrote

It’s bizarre people are downvoting you. The auto gratuity is a gross thing. If it costs you more to run the business, then charge $20 for a sandwich and stop lying that the customer somehow has to “pay gratuity” to make up the difference

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Ch0pper6 t1_j3aq1dh wrote

Damn, I was hoping Parkway Corner was close to Martha since I work over there. Who’s got a good Italian in that area?

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rev9whitey t1_j3as2lx wrote

Castellino’s

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Ch0pper6 t1_j3dx86s wrote

Yo, you weren’t joking. Ate a “hoagie” from there today. Damn delicious. Thanks for the rec.

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rev9whitey t1_j3dz9x7 wrote

Yeah, they’re BOMB. The veggie hoagie is also incredible and I can’t recommend the Franklin enough

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l_AM_NOT_A_COP t1_j3atlnw wrote

Second this. The Italian is great, but all the sandwiches are worth trying

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rev9whitey t1_j3auzc7 wrote

Totally agree. Make sure to order ahead though!

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cheshire__kat t1_j3bivyy wrote

Near Martha? Dan’s Fresh Meats at Frankford and Norris.

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Sir_Silly_Sloth t1_j3bp1ql wrote

Second this, their Italian is unbeatable. It’s honestly a crime that I don’t see them mentioned in these comment sections more often.

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cheshire__kat t1_j3ctw05 wrote

I am actually almost regretful that I even mentioned it because I don’t want to spoil the secret. Also I think I have to go get an Italian hoagie from Dan’s now.

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[deleted] t1_j3e9v0u wrote

Please do spoil secrets about small businesses, we'd like them to stay open right?

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cheshire__kat t1_j3ellaw wrote

Dan’s has been open for like a thousand years. (Ok…actually 75 years…) But yes I do indeed hope they continue to stay open!

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ThatWasTheJawn t1_j3c0iwx wrote

3J’s slaps every time.

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Mike81890 t1_j3cna1v wrote

I spent a lot of time in chester and there's a sandwich shop called 2 J's.

It's like the prequel. Always gives me a laugh

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clander270 t1_j3ca3xd wrote

Never had a hoagie from 3J's but I can say that their chicken sandwiches are pretty bomb

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sakamake OP t1_j3aqtdx wrote

Del Rossi (4th and Spring Garden) used to be my go-to spot but they've undergone some depressing shrinkflation lately for the Italian hoagie and also cheesesteaks. Still a solid option though!

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ArcticSploosh t1_j3jnjoo wrote

The corner market on Coral and York two blocks away actually has an incredible one. The owners are Dominican I believe, but the mans in the deli used to make a mean Italian hoagie.

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presidentpiko t1_j3aq33z wrote

Cherry street used to do the best hoagie

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[deleted] t1_j3ea69y wrote

Been to Martha a couple of times, the projecting French art films onto the walls just strikes me as trying too hard

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sakamake OP t1_j3eexdh wrote

Yesterday it was anime...seems to suit them a bit better.

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BigStatus8740 t1_j3byh9v wrote

Parkway gets the nod because they also sell beer, their brekky is good too, on par with little Pete's. You should check it out.

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HogwartsKate t1_j3dox3v wrote

Best Italian sandwich in all of PA is V&S in Reading! The meat ratio is like a New York deli…on an AMOROSO hard roll!

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Firm-Cry-1514 t1_j3gwztw wrote

I mean I agree with the sentiment but Martha is hardly a sandwich place. It’s a fancy bar that happens to sell a hoagie. Kind of a false equivalency going on here

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monkeycycling t1_j3ag1qt wrote

Thought the bottom one looked better so was confused by the post

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mild_ocd t1_j3c3hj4 wrote

If you’re looking for decent quality at a reasonable price the deli guys at South Square market 22nd and South make a great Italian. They’re my low key go to

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cfh294 t1_j3cij94 wrote

Neither looks ideal. But sometimes that top one, that super bowl Sunday-high school fundraiser-made by volunteers-hoagie hits different

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9175144472 t1_j3ct1xc wrote

Good to know. I pass it all the time but have never been in.

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ro716180 t1_j3dblph wrote

Parkway is amazing

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B0dega_Cat t1_j3e9est wrote

The So Long Sal at Middle Child Clubhouse is pretty banging

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shark_skin_suit t1_j3h8rda wrote

by number of votes in last year's Inquirer bracket, Martha was determined to be the the worst cheesesteak in Philadelphia

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St_Veloth t1_j4309vv wrote

maybe I'm a disgrace to hoagies but I've never been a fan of sandwiches that have STACKS of meat, I like an even ratio. That said, the bottom sandwich looks like a sad lie with an even more wack ratio so I agree thats a failure of sandwich

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Phl_worldwide t1_j3bozdn wrote

But did you know? They aren’t “cool” so Martha is better.

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gubmintbacon t1_j3d5mgx wrote

There’s just so many great hoagies in this city they all have their place.

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aaavvvvv t1_j3fvbhk wrote

Food point deli in south Philly has the best Italian hoagie it’s cheap and huge and delicious

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Haivamosdandole t1_j3hexv1 wrote

You guys talking about hoagies and I'm here looking for some "Bolillo" mexican bread, seriously, I crave that bread so much

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neensy21 t1_j3wls2a wrote

I haven’t been in years but the breakfast at Parkway Corner Deli used to slap. Glad they’re still around

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JeffHall28 t1_j3dhieo wrote

Martha is some Bougie bullshit.

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BloodPrayer t1_j3awxtd wrote

Oh shut the fuck up with that hipster bullshit, there’s plenty of places to get a good fucking hoagie all over the city. Put down your camera and eat your food from the spot you like

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sakamake OP t1_j3aypr0 wrote

I am very sorry I tried to call attention to a spot I like by showing one clearly visible way in which it really delivers!

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ace_urban t1_j3b0cmb wrote

Please name them. Seriously. I’ve been finding it harder and harder to find a good hoagie on good bread. Back in the day, I always went to lee’s.

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