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Notmiefault t1_j3abvgh wrote

Martha's a hipster bougie joint with authentic nothing.

It's also fucking delicious. Their bread is amazing.

I haven't been to Parkway Corner, looks tasty.

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LeetPokemon t1_j3acjfk wrote

This is like when people get fired up about Pizzeria Beddia being expensive. Galaxy brain take

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porkchameleon t1_j3aczwy wrote

20% automatic gratuity for food pickup is a 100% sure way the place will never get my business.

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porkchameleon t1_j3ad3vg wrote

> It's also fucking delicious. Their bread is amazing.

Bread makes or breaks a hoagie/cheesesteak most of the time, but there's no way of saving whatsoever whatever it is pictured in the photo at the bottom.

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monkeycycling t1_j3ag1qt wrote

Thought the bottom one looked better so was confused by the post

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medicated_in_PHL t1_j3agrtl wrote

Best Italian hoagie is somewhere between those two. Parkway has way too much meat, Martha’s has way too little. The perfect Italian hoagie is a balance of all ingredients and neither of those have it.

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Living-Pineapple-589 t1_j3agrvm wrote

Agreed. If you want 20% more for your product to pay for staff, just build it into the price. But they won’t because people would balk at their prices altogether.

They specifically put it in as auto-gratuity to guilt trip you and make it too awkward to cancel the order or say something.

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nnp1989 t1_j3ahngi wrote

Let’s be honest, those both look like ass.

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Rsubs33 t1_j3ahsav wrote

Ricci's on 11th Old Fashioned Italian Hoagie was my go to when I lived in the city.

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sakamake OP t1_j3ait5a wrote

The bread was by far the best part of the sandwich but I had to take 90% of the lettuce off before I could even taste it. Parkway Corner is basically just your standard Boars Head deli spot but I've come to appreciate them more and more this year.

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Tetsuo-Kaneda t1_j3alrai wrote

If I wanted that much meat in my mouth I’d go to woodys

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Honest_Elephant t1_j3apwmm wrote

I, personally, am grossed out by thick, homogenous layers of fleshy lunch meats. That top hoagie is a big no-go for me. The bottom is too much lettuce, but I would still prefer it because it wouldn't give me the heebie jeebies

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Ch0pper6 t1_j3aq1dh wrote

Damn, I was hoping Parkway Corner was close to Martha since I work over there. Who’s got a good Italian in that area?

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sakamake OP t1_j3aqtdx wrote

Del Rossi (4th and Spring Garden) used to be my go-to spot but they've undergone some depressing shrinkflation lately for the Italian hoagie and also cheesesteaks. Still a solid option though!

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BureaucraticHotboi t1_j3awrfd wrote

Can’t lie the best Italian hoagie I’ve had recently (and I live in south Philly with access to many great hoagies) was from Liberty Kitchen in fishtown. Absolutely expensive but holy shit those dudes put their whole elbow in that hoagie.

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BloodPrayer t1_j3awxtd wrote

Oh shut the fuck up with that hipster bullshit, there’s plenty of places to get a good fucking hoagie all over the city. Put down your camera and eat your food from the spot you like

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BureaucraticHotboi t1_j3ax78t wrote

Correct I come from sub country. Subs and hoagies are more or less interchangeable. I will say a hoagie is more specific than just being on a long roll. The shredded lettuce, tomatoes and oil or mayo is more specific here than in the northeast US. Subs are just anything on a long roll. Hoagies mean a certain dressing on a long roll in my experience

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thelatherdaddy t1_j3axviv wrote

Re: your hoagie v sub response…

To my knowledge, one doesn’t have more or less meat than the other as the distinguishing factor. More or less, it’s regional with some minor differences as you detailed. We will never know because in their utter confidence in defense of their position, they posted a response and then swiftly deleted their account. Classic.

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Prancemaster t1_j3azxkm wrote

Both of these sandwiches are ass and you used Comic Sans for the text. Is this a bit??

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holographiclife t1_j3b53v0 wrote

To each their own but frankly that I find that phonebook of ham terrifying

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chumpyis t1_j3bba9c wrote

P & S has the best Italian in the city!

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ItsBobsledTime t1_j3bo71y wrote

Martha also pays their employees well. Can’t speak to Parkway. But that’s probably the cost of actually providing a living wage to restaurant staff.

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Phl_worldwide t1_j3bozdn wrote

But did you know? They aren’t “cool” so Martha is better.

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Phl_worldwide t1_j3bu177 wrote

It’s bizarre people are downvoting you. The auto gratuity is a gross thing. If it costs you more to run the business, then charge $20 for a sandwich and stop lying that the customer somehow has to “pay gratuity” to make up the difference

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BigStatus8740 t1_j3byh9v wrote

Parkway gets the nod because they also sell beer, their brekky is good too, on par with little Pete's. You should check it out.

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mild_ocd t1_j3c3hj4 wrote

If you’re looking for decent quality at a reasonable price the deli guys at South Square market 22nd and South make a great Italian. They’re my low key go to

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Rahawk02 t1_j3c4s5s wrote

I've passed by that place probably 10,000 times and never went in until a couple months ago and I've been there about a dozen times since.

Also, how's the chicken salad I don't like a lot of places chicken salad and I'd hate to pass on one of the ones that I know I'll enjoy like the Big Rick or the one with the fried chicken lunchmeat and hot cheese.

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cfh294 t1_j3cij94 wrote

Neither looks ideal. But sometimes that top one, that super bowl Sunday-high school fundraiser-made by volunteers-hoagie hits different

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lfgorman8300 t1_j3cly3l wrote

Mancuso on passyunk making some very good Italians

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colefly t1_j3cqjyj wrote

A good bread with nothing in it beats a mound of meat on stale sponge, any day

That said. Mound of meat AND good bread is what I expect and get from ANY dirty back-corner deli in Philly

The more annoyed they guy behind the deli counter is with you daring to order a sandwich, the better the sandwich

The hairier the arms of the guy behind the deli counter , the better the sandwich

The harder it is to place the accent of the guy behind the deli counter , the better the sandwich

The closer that rat traps are sold to the deli counter, the better the sandwich

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9175144472 t1_j3ct1xc wrote

Good to know. I pass it all the time but have never been in.

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gubmintbacon t1_j3d5mgx wrote

There’s just so many great hoagies in this city they all have their place.

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TapWater28 t1_j3dazw8 wrote

The best hoagies in Philly are below Snyder Ave. Pastaficio, P&S, MiPals, Big Nick's, Jeannie's, and Original Primo's are all stellar.

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HogwartsKate t1_j3dox3v wrote

Best Italian sandwich in all of PA is V&S in Reading! The meat ratio is like a New York deli…on an AMOROSO hard roll!

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B0dega_Cat t1_j3e9est wrote

The So Long Sal at Middle Child Clubhouse is pretty banging

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[deleted] t1_j3ea69y wrote

Been to Martha a couple of times, the projecting French art films onto the walls just strikes me as trying too hard

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Rsubs33 t1_j3f17lz wrote

If you love sharp provolone I highly recommend the Old Fashioned Italian. Has super sharp crumbly provolone and roasted red peppers. Their reg Italian and other hoagies are great too tho. I moved away two years ago for work and still crave it. Got it last time I was in town tho.

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aaavvvvv t1_j3fvbhk wrote

Food point deli in south Philly has the best Italian hoagie it’s cheap and huge and delicious

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Firm-Cry-1514 t1_j3gwztw wrote

I mean I agree with the sentiment but Martha is hardly a sandwich place. It’s a fancy bar that happens to sell a hoagie. Kind of a false equivalency going on here

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shark_skin_suit t1_j3h8rda wrote

by number of votes in last year's Inquirer bracket, Martha was determined to be the the worst cheesesteak in Philadelphia

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Haivamosdandole t1_j3hexv1 wrote

You guys talking about hoagies and I'm here looking for some "Bolillo" mexican bread, seriously, I crave that bread so much

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neensy21 t1_j3wls2a wrote

I haven’t been in years but the breakfast at Parkway Corner Deli used to slap. Glad they’re still around

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St_Veloth t1_j4309vv wrote

maybe I'm a disgrace to hoagies but I've never been a fan of sandwiches that have STACKS of meat, I like an even ratio. That said, the bottom sandwich looks like a sad lie with an even more wack ratio so I agree thats a failure of sandwich

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