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LeetPokemon t1_j3acjfk wrote
This is like when people get fired up about Pizzeria Beddia being expensive. Galaxy brain take
porkchameleon t1_j3aczwy wrote
20% automatic gratuity for food pickup is a 100% sure way the place will never get my business.
porkchameleon t1_j3ad3vg wrote
> It's also fucking delicious. Their bread is amazing.
Bread makes or breaks a hoagie/cheesesteak most of the time, but there's no way of saving whatsoever whatever it is pictured in the photo at the bottom.
yadayodayada t1_j3ademc wrote
Shh!
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monkeycycling t1_j3ag1qt wrote
Thought the bottom one looked better so was confused by the post
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medicated_in_PHL t1_j3agrtl wrote
Best Italian hoagie is somewhere between those two. Parkway has way too much meat, Martha’s has way too little. The perfect Italian hoagie is a balance of all ingredients and neither of those have it.
Living-Pineapple-589 t1_j3agrvm wrote
Agreed. If you want 20% more for your product to pay for staff, just build it into the price. But they won’t because people would balk at their prices altogether.
They specifically put it in as auto-gratuity to guilt trip you and make it too awkward to cancel the order or say something.
nnp1989 t1_j3ahngi wrote
Let’s be honest, those both look like ass.
Rsubs33 t1_j3ahsav wrote
Ricci's on 11th Old Fashioned Italian Hoagie was my go to when I lived in the city.
SovietChewbacca t1_j3ahwqz wrote
Had dinner there on Wednesday. Pizza was a solid 6 maybe 6.5.
porkchameleon t1_j3aie4u wrote
Oh, I would go full Harry David (from Curb Your Enthusiasm) on them for something like this: we already have bullshit sales tax on virtually everything, so we almost never pay advertised price, and now this?
Okay. Okay...
LeetPokemon t1_j3ail8f wrote
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sakamake OP t1_j3ait5a wrote
The bread was by far the best part of the sandwich but I had to take 90% of the lettuce off before I could even taste it. Parkway Corner is basically just your standard Boars Head deli spot but I've come to appreciate them more and more this year.
IntelligentCommenter t1_j3aj1ix wrote
Dude parkway corner rules
sakamake OP t1_j3ajojg wrote
I understand the importance of a good ratio when constructing the ideal sandwich, but I respectfully disagree on this one.
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Delicious-Rooster629 t1_j3akxb2 wrote
Larry David
Tetsuo-Kaneda t1_j3alrai wrote
If I wanted that much meat in my mouth I’d go to woodys
porkchameleon t1_j3amtqb wrote
Right, Harry David.
skip_tracer t1_j3annqx wrote
oh come on. Beddia is banging, it's just cool to hate especially since Dave Fuckboi rolled through and was lukewarm to it.
SovietChewbacca t1_j3anx2o wrote
Had #1 and #5 they were decent just didn't live up to the hype.
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all_akimbo t1_j3ap590 wrote
Can confirm it’s still great
Honest_Elephant t1_j3apwmm wrote
I, personally, am grossed out by thick, homogenous layers of fleshy lunch meats. That top hoagie is a big no-go for me. The bottom is too much lettuce, but I would still prefer it because it wouldn't give me the heebie jeebies
presidentpiko t1_j3aq151 wrote
Gotta try it
Ch0pper6 t1_j3aq1dh wrote
Damn, I was hoping Parkway Corner was close to Martha since I work over there. Who’s got a good Italian in that area?
presidentpiko t1_j3aq33z wrote
Cherry street used to do the best hoagie
sakamake OP t1_j3aqtdx wrote
Del Rossi (4th and Spring Garden) used to be my go-to spot but they've undergone some depressing shrinkflation lately for the Italian hoagie and also cheesesteaks. Still a solid option though!
sakamake OP t1_j3ar26b wrote
I can believe that, had an incredible turkey sandwich there semi-recently
presidentpiko t1_j3ark0m wrote
roast beef sammy still kicks thooo
respondstostupidity t1_j3arv81 wrote
What you're looking for is a sub then, not a hoagie.
rev9whitey t1_j3as2lx wrote
Castellino’s
GooFoYouPal t1_j3ascw5 wrote
yeah, you wouldn’t want people to patronize it and keep it open….
l_AM_NOT_A_COP t1_j3atlnw wrote
Second this. The Italian is great, but all the sandwiches are worth trying
drbhrb t1_j3au2jw wrote
Right? I was trying to figure out what point the picture was trying to make.
respondstostupidity t1_j3auryi wrote
David, Larry and Harry
rev9whitey t1_j3auzc7 wrote
Totally agree. Make sure to order ahead though!
pianomanzano t1_j3aw4yx wrote
Shoutout to comic sans ms
thelatherdaddy t1_j3awap8 wrote
Fairly certain that is not the distinction.
thelatherdaddy t1_j3awchw wrote
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BureaucraticHotboi t1_j3awrfd wrote
Can’t lie the best Italian hoagie I’ve had recently (and I live in south Philly with access to many great hoagies) was from Liberty Kitchen in fishtown. Absolutely expensive but holy shit those dudes put their whole elbow in that hoagie.
respondstostupidity t1_j3awu0p wrote
The hoagie was supposed to be filling enough for poor workers which meant loading it with Italian meats and cheeses. If you want a bread salad, go eat a sub and don't ever try to correct me again.
BloodPrayer t1_j3awxtd wrote
Oh shut the fuck up with that hipster bullshit, there’s plenty of places to get a good fucking hoagie all over the city. Put down your camera and eat your food from the spot you like
BureaucraticHotboi t1_j3ax78t wrote
Correct I come from sub country. Subs and hoagies are more or less interchangeable. I will say a hoagie is more specific than just being on a long roll. The shredded lettuce, tomatoes and oil or mayo is more specific here than in the northeast US. Subs are just anything on a long roll. Hoagies mean a certain dressing on a long roll in my experience
thelatherdaddy t1_j3axviv wrote
Re: your hoagie v sub response…
To my knowledge, one doesn’t have more or less meat than the other as the distinguishing factor. More or less, it’s regional with some minor differences as you detailed. We will never know because in their utter confidence in defense of their position, they posted a response and then swiftly deleted their account. Classic.
sakamake OP t1_j3aypr0 wrote
I am very sorry I tried to call attention to a spot I like by showing one clearly visible way in which it really delivers!
Melissajoanshart t1_j3azspm wrote
We dont use that word round these parts.
Prancemaster t1_j3azxkm wrote
Both of these sandwiches are ass and you used Comic Sans for the text. Is this a bit??
ace_urban t1_j3b0cmb wrote
Please name them. Seriously. I’ve been finding it harder and harder to find a good hoagie on good bread. Back in the day, I always went to lee’s.
DisintegrationPt808 t1_j3b2oda wrote
yeah but pepper spread
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Revolutionary_Bee700 t1_j3b4ctw wrote
I feel the same way about lunch meat. Especially if the texture is combined with sticky, slimy mayo. Gag.
holographiclife t1_j3b53v0 wrote
To each their own but frankly that I find that phonebook of ham terrifying
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chumpyis t1_j3bba9c wrote
P & S has the best Italian in the city!
Thunderhank t1_j3bgpoy wrote
They have a good one, the spread is real nice and the bread is great. Best Italian in Fishtown’s got to go to Castellino’s though.
phillyEMdoc t1_j3bguuu wrote
Yeah the only way I want that much meat in my mouth per bite is
The_Prince1513 t1_j3bgx5t wrote
> don't ever try to correct me again.
lmao internet tough guy over here. How’s 8th grade going bro?
Proper-Code7794 t1_j3bh97s wrote
I get fired up about them being fake
cheshire__kat t1_j3bivyy wrote
Near Martha? Dan’s Fresh Meats at Frankford and Norris.
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Dent7777 t1_j3blmtu wrote
When you got your jaw around a nice juicy cock
phillyEMdoc t1_j3bloqy wrote
Whoa bro I meant a cheesesteak ok
Dent7777 t1_j3bm8qq wrote
Oh my gosh I'm so sorry
phillyEMdoc t1_j3bmcqg wrote
No harm no foul - I like to wash my cheesesteaks down with a nice big throatful of
ItsBobsledTime t1_j3bo71y wrote
Martha also pays their employees well. Can’t speak to Parkway. But that’s probably the cost of actually providing a living wage to restaurant staff.
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Phl_worldwide t1_j3bozdn wrote
But did you know? They aren’t “cool” so Martha is better.
Sir_Silly_Sloth t1_j3bp1ql wrote
Second this, their Italian is unbeatable. It’s honestly a crime that I don’t see them mentioned in these comment sections more often.
Phl_worldwide t1_j3bu177 wrote
It’s bizarre people are downvoting you. The auto gratuity is a gross thing. If it costs you more to run the business, then charge $20 for a sandwich and stop lying that the customer somehow has to “pay gratuity” to make up the difference
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filladellfea t1_j3by50g wrote
all must bow down to your marinucci's god
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BigStatus8740 t1_j3byh9v wrote
Parkway gets the nod because they also sell beer, their brekky is good too, on par with little Pete's. You should check it out.
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ThatWasTheJawn t1_j3c0iwx wrote
3J’s slaps every time.
Void24 t1_j3c0l9m wrote
It’s Dans and it’s not close.
mild_ocd t1_j3c3hj4 wrote
If you’re looking for decent quality at a reasonable price the deli guys at South Square market 22nd and South make a great Italian. They’re my low key go to
Rahawk02 t1_j3c4s5s wrote
I've passed by that place probably 10,000 times and never went in until a couple months ago and I've been there about a dozen times since.
Also, how's the chicken salad I don't like a lot of places chicken salad and I'd hate to pass on one of the ones that I know I'll enjoy like the Big Rick or the one with the fried chicken lunchmeat and hot cheese.
Asanokyo t1_j3c53lx wrote
Never thought I’d see Marinucci’s shouted out on Reddit. Love that place the hoagies are amazing.
Rahawk02 t1_j3c5kba wrote
Are you sure he's not looking for a hero?
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AgentDaxis t1_j3c8xxs wrote
This 100%.
Probably THE best old school hoagie shop in town.
clander270 t1_j3ca3xd wrote
Never had a hoagie from 3J's but I can say that their chicken sandwiches are pretty bomb
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ItsBobsledTime t1_j3cdxmy wrote
What’s it matter to you if the price is in the food or the gratuity if you have to pay it?
Jason_S_88 t1_j3cf9kl wrote
I really didn't like Dan's when I went, I know.its old school but old school doesn't have to mean dirty and dingy
Void24 t1_j3chcg1 wrote
I go there to buy sandwiches. Not for the ambiance, which isn’t even that bad.
cfh294 t1_j3cic3b wrote
Mouth watered reading this comment
cfh294 t1_j3cij94 wrote
Neither looks ideal. But sometimes that top one, that super bowl Sunday-high school fundraiser-made by volunteers-hoagie hits different
cfh294 t1_j3cin3y wrote
Yessssss. So underrated
Basique_b t1_j3cjjtt wrote
Sooooo good!!
lfgorman8300 t1_j3cly3l wrote
Mancuso on passyunk making some very good Italians
Mike81890 t1_j3cm2cw wrote
Thanks I'm gonna have to go to Ricci's today now
KryptonicxJesus t1_j3cm9vt wrote
Served with a personal vat of horseradish
Thunderhank t1_j3cn7n6 wrote
I love the sandwiches and the ambiance. Love seeing Dan sit in the back and read his paper. Feels like the 50s in there.
Mike81890 t1_j3cna1v wrote
I spent a lot of time in chester and there's a sandwich shop called 2 J's.
It's like the prequel. Always gives me a laugh
Void24 t1_j3cnmn8 wrote
100% and the lady that is usually making the sandwiches is so nice.
colefly t1_j3cqjyj wrote
A good bread with nothing in it beats a mound of meat on stale sponge, any day
That said. Mound of meat AND good bread is what I expect and get from ANY dirty back-corner deli in Philly
The more annoyed they guy behind the deli counter is with you daring to order a sandwich, the better the sandwich
The hairier the arms of the guy behind the deli counter , the better the sandwich
The harder it is to place the accent of the guy behind the deli counter , the better the sandwich
The closer that rat traps are sold to the deli counter, the better the sandwich
9175144472 t1_j3ct1xc wrote
Good to know. I pass it all the time but have never been in.
cheshire__kat t1_j3ctw05 wrote
I am actually almost regretful that I even mentioned it because I don’t want to spoil the secret. Also I think I have to go get an Italian hoagie from Dan’s now.
simmonsatl t1_j3ctzst wrote
jizz whiz?
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gubmintbacon t1_j3d5mgx wrote
There’s just so many great hoagies in this city they all have their place.
TapWater28 t1_j3d9x6e wrote
Hoagie coward
TapWater28 t1_j3dazw8 wrote
The best hoagies in Philly are below Snyder Ave. Pastaficio, P&S, MiPals, Big Nick's, Jeannie's, and Original Primo's are all stellar.
ro716180 t1_j3dblph wrote
Parkway is amazing
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JeffHall28 t1_j3dhieo wrote
Martha is some Bougie bullshit.
_bangaroo t1_j3dhn6q wrote
I’m going to blow your mind but you pay the employees wages with every transaction you make in every store
TapWater28 t1_j3dkla3 wrote
Yeah, the amount of people hyping up this lettuce sandwich on the bottom is frightening.
Sleepy_Like_Me t1_j3dl8r5 wrote
Agreed. First one is way too much meat
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hiphopanonymousse t1_j3dnx2o wrote
It’s pricey but yea, I love Liberty Kitchen’s Italian hoagie
HogwartsKate t1_j3dox3v wrote
Best Italian sandwich in all of PA is V&S in Reading! The meat ratio is like a New York deli…on an AMOROSO hard roll!
BureaucraticHotboi t1_j3dp565 wrote
You just reminded me that the spread was really the thing that put it over the top into oh fuck territory
Evrytimeweslay t1_j3dr5lp wrote
Lmao “phonebook of ham” is a great line
MrSchaudenfreude t1_j3dvu5i wrote
Oh yeah they make a great sandwich, with those cheese crumbles. Badass
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Ch0pper6 t1_j3dx86s wrote
Yo, you weren’t joking. Ate a “hoagie” from there today. Damn delicious. Thanks for the rec.
dysfunkti0n t1_j3dy4a3 wrote
Extremely adequate.
rev9whitey t1_j3dz9x7 wrote
Yeah, they’re BOMB. The veggie hoagie is also incredible and I can’t recommend the Franklin enough
Wu-Tang_Killa_Bees t1_j3e779f wrote
Saving this, thank you
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B0dega_Cat t1_j3e9est wrote
The So Long Sal at Middle Child Clubhouse is pretty banging
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Please do spoil secrets about small businesses, we'd like them to stay open right?
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Been to Martha a couple of times, the projecting French art films onto the walls just strikes me as trying too hard
sakamake OP t1_j3eexdh wrote
Yesterday it was anime...seems to suit them a bit better.
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cheshire__kat t1_j3ellaw wrote
Dan’s has been open for like a thousand years. (Ok…actually 75 years…) But yes I do indeed hope they continue to stay open!
Past_Cartographer230 t1_j3eln20 wrote
Martha is trash
sakamake OP t1_j3emjds wrote
Yeah I don't see myself going back there anytime soon
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sakamake OP t1_j3enywk wrote
Whenever I'm near that area it's to hit up Primas, but I will be sure to check out Ricci's next time I'm there.
sakamake OP t1_j3eqzkg wrote
Yeah sometimes I feel like my biggest issue here is that I just never get that far south. Thinking it's probably worth a trip just for that alone.
Rsubs33 t1_j3f17lz wrote
If you love sharp provolone I highly recommend the Old Fashioned Italian. Has super sharp crumbly provolone and roasted red peppers. Their reg Italian and other hoagies are great too tho. I moved away two years ago for work and still crave it. Got it last time I was in town tho.
J_Blomez t1_j3f1znw wrote
Pastaficio's regular Italian hoagie is the gold standard for a well constructed sandwich IMO. The ratios are perfect and everything is sliced to just the right thickness
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Character_Macaron133 t1_j3fgvtk wrote
Little Nicks*….my cousins buddy owns the spot. Hoagies there are so damn good. His uncle is Big Nick who owns the corner store.
Character_Macaron133 t1_j3fh3ib wrote
Dan is the fucking man…store hasn’t been updated since the 70’s
aaavvvvv t1_j3fvbhk wrote
Food point deli in south Philly has the best Italian hoagie it’s cheap and huge and delicious
Firm-Cry-1514 t1_j3gwztw wrote
I mean I agree with the sentiment but Martha is hardly a sandwich place. It’s a fancy bar that happens to sell a hoagie. Kind of a false equivalency going on here
shark_skin_suit t1_j3h8rda wrote
by number of votes in last year's Inquirer bracket, Martha was determined to be the the worst cheesesteak in Philadelphia
shark_skin_suit t1_j3h8xp9 wrote
too much lettuce and not enough meat on Martha
Haivamosdandole t1_j3hexv1 wrote
You guys talking about hoagies and I'm here looking for some "Bolillo" mexican bread, seriously, I crave that bread so much
Skigamajig t1_j3i0zfd wrote
Their chicken salad is pretty solid. So is their potato salad, very good. Honestly feel like they can’t miss.
ArcticSploosh t1_j3jnjoo wrote
The corner market on Coral and York two blocks away actually has an incredible one. The owners are Dominican I believe, but the mans in the deli used to make a mean Italian hoagie.
coolkid9 t1_j3jykpu wrote
You forgot the king, with daily fresh baked bread, not shipped in... (Angelo's)
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neensy21 t1_j3wls2a wrote
I haven’t been in years but the breakfast at Parkway Corner Deli used to slap. Glad they’re still around
St_Veloth t1_j4309vv wrote
maybe I'm a disgrace to hoagies but I've never been a fan of sandwiches that have STACKS of meat, I like an even ratio. That said, the bottom sandwich looks like a sad lie with an even more wack ratio so I agree thats a failure of sandwich
Notmiefault t1_j3abvgh wrote
Martha's a hipster bougie joint with authentic nothing.
It's also fucking delicious. Their bread is amazing.
I haven't been to Parkway Corner, looks tasty.