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Mikemo05 t1_j5scswn wrote

Defunding the police made its way west. Students want DUPD and Penn PD gone. To those people I hope you come to the real word before college ends.

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UndercoverPhilly t1_j5sp9sd wrote

I think many young people in Philly were caught up in the protests and the police brutality cases that should not have happened. They had been under lockdown for a few months and going to protest was a way to get out of the house for a good cause. Although I do not approve of police brutality I was never behind defund the police in Philly or any big city for that matter. PPD has some serious problems that need to be dealt with, but there was already a ridiculous amount of crime. To think that it wouldn’t increase if police presence were reduced in Philly was naive.

I was in a local establishment a couple of days ago, and I live in CC, a supposedly “safe” area. This was about 9:00 pm. When I walked in no one was there and I placed an order. 5 minutes later the employees are upset because several young men came in and declared they needed to charge their phones. They were not buying anything. Charging their phones meant moving furniture in the place to use an outlet! WTH? The two customers behind me quickly left. The employee told the young men to leave and that could not come in there every night. They refused. Most likely they were armed and with only 3 employees what could they do? The employees were talking about the lack of a security guard in the place. I know they were scared.I consider myself lucky to get my stuff and get out of there. I walked home pretty fast. This is not something I have ever seen in the 15 years living in the area, and the first time I felt unsafe in a business.

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enn_sixty_four t1_j5tapzw wrote

I mean Philly cops haven't done shit since 2020 since they're upset we wanted the cops nationally to stop killing black people and locally wanted them to not brutalize protestors for bogus reasons

The hardest they worked since then was when they tracked down that girl who torched their car via her profile pic from an Etsy comment.

So yeah I'm still in favor of defunding them. I'd rather my taxes goto anything else than the pockets and pensions of a bunch of cowards who pull shit like this.

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UndercoverPhilly t1_j5twzwe wrote

I remember the incident. For sure it was wrong. However, the all or nothing is not going to be positive for the city. There needs to be an attempt at a truce, getting rid of the bad cops and building up the decent ones.

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enn_sixty_four t1_j5u03qe wrote

The cops currently soft striking for the last three yrs isn't positive for the city. The cops "why bother?" attitude since 2020 isn't positive for the city. The loads of cops who have been racist misogynistic douchebag creeps towards my loved ones, for decades before 2020, weren't positive for the city.

Defund isn't the same as abolish.

"Getting rid of bad cops" wait, a minute ago you didn't want less police but now you want to get rid of the majority??

"A truce" between who? Us, and the cops who beat and harass the taxpayers they're paid to protect? A truce between us and the police commissioner who lied until the new York times and Inquirer called her out? Us, and the cops who told the violent dudes with weapons "can you guys leave so we can arrest the protesters for curfew"?

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UndercoverPhilly t1_j5u1x1k wrote

This is a thread about Temple. The majority of students and parents seem to want more police as do many residents in the city. It's a complicated issue so I apologize if my response is contradictory in certain points. I don't think it is a either/or and that type of thinking is not going to help. The crime situation DEFINITELY can get worse, not just at Temple but around the city.

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