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Weird_Currency_412 t1_j4o1jlm wrote

Never want anyone to lose their jobs but these are inhumane to the horses. I previously lived in NYC when this was ended under the previous unpopular mayor. I thought it was piling by the people when it ended and I reader literature about how inhumane this was.

No shade to anyone who reminiscence about this because most didn't know including myself. Once I talked to a activist I gladly signed their petition which ended the practice.

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Angsty_Potatos t1_j4o6dcd wrote

It's very cruel and I do hope Philly ends the practice. But I hope the horses have a place to go that isn't a kill pen at an auction

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synthetikxangel t1_j4o3qiy wrote

76 staff is the best of the best. They love these horses and would do anything for them. These horses are taken care off better then most pets. Just take 15 minutes to speak to someone who spends day in and out with these beautiful souls and you would understand

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Angsty_Potatos t1_j4o6opn wrote

Working carriage horses is one thing. But anyone who knows a lick about horses knows that much asphalt walking is awful on them. Not to mention how desperately hot it gets on the streets in summer. Plus asking these horses to share the road with Philly drivers. It's terrible.

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Lawlington t1_j4qk4n4 wrote

Who is “we”? Just because there’s a movie about them doesn’t mean the vast majority of Philadelphians support them taking subpar care of animals

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Lawlington t1_j4ql3n5 wrote

Depends on how it’s framed and who is in charge of directing it. There’s a market for garbage movies and documentaries, shit Netflix is stacking bills glorifying murderers, rapists and pedos in their shows.

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Weird_Currency_412 t1_j4o4jfk wrote

I don't believe they are the only company that organize these functions. One company doesn't represent all. The same info you read about the one responsible company, I read and spoke to reasonable activist who argued something else.

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synthetikxangel t1_j4o6fvs wrote

76 is actually the last carriage company in Philadelphia. And I didn't just read the info, I had the pleasure of being a driver there for three years (my horses have since retired to a farm of a former driver in Massachusetts).

The horses at 76 are loved. They save lives. I went through a very rough time right before I started there and seeing those gentle giants every day was the best therapy. They amount of happiness they bring is unsurmountable.

And before you say they are 'forced' to work....have you ever tried to make an 1800lb+ animal do something it didn't want to? Cause let me tell you, that's not reality.

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ShartbusShorty t1_j4pbt4u wrote

If P.T. Barnum were alive, I’m sure he could convince you that man can and will force large animals into work, regardless of its desire to do the job.

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synthetikxangel t1_j4ppt7t wrote

PT Barnum was a monster who exploited people as well as animals, so that’s a pretty trash example.

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ShartbusShorty t1_j4sr4an wrote

sounds exactly like what we’re talking about here, homie.

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synthetikxangel t1_j4stfsp wrote

Except for none of the horses or people are exploited. There doing a job and recording a pay. PT Barnum basically treated his “sideshows” as slaves

So not the same

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Weird_Currency_412 t1_j4oahek wrote

Let's say you are right in your evaluation (mind you there are non-biased animal activist who are reasonable argue differently) why isn't this still a viable business model? Why aren't small business owners still advocating this service.

Let's use logic here (not saying you aren't). Yes, politicians can do more harm than good but they wouldn't push policies that causes people to lose jobs.

Also, you can coerce a 1800 lbs. animal to do something which was one of the video shown to me which changed my mind about the practice.

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