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Police say a woman is recovering after she was shot in the thigh while in a rideshare vehicle.

It happened on the Vine Street Expressway near Broad street in Center City.

The rideshare driver told police that the gunman was driving by them in another vehicle when they opened fire.

The driver was able to flag down police, who took the the 21-year-old shooting victim to Jefferson University Hospital.

Officials say she is in stable condition.

Pennsylvania State Police have not announced any arrests or provided insight into the motive.

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MANDATORY 4K

what the FUCK

Ride share Driver probably had opps.

Man even the Uber's aren't safe, can't have shit in this city

Are you sure that would be a good idea?

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Well fuck. I take rideshares whenever I’m out at night because the El isn’t safe anymore, but then this shit happens and on the middle of the Vine St Expressway too.

Yes

If it was on Septa this would have hundreds of upvotes and people would talk about how they'll never take public transit again.

Well at least this will finally convince people from the suburbs to not use Uber.

It’s a great idea BUT first issue is how many fake license plates there are in this region. The temporary tags is out of control, then you have stolen vehicles (using temporary tags) so in that end that makes things hard. I really think the federal government needs to ban temporary tags and figure out a solution to this.

This doesn’t mean driving in a ride share isn’t safe. In fact, as far as I can tell, it seems kind of irrelevant to the story. someone shot into another car on Vine Street expressway. That’s what happened and probably 100,000 cars passed through there today. So…… it’s still pretty darn safe.

All part of MANDATORY 4K. Enforcement of temp tags will become paramount, and the way to do it is to investigate every parked temp tag car, and tow immediately if it's not registered properly. There's already a city law that allows immediate towing of any vehicle with expired registration.

It would be relevant if the driver had opps and was targeted. It also could be they are a crappy driver and it was road rage. It sounds like the car was targeted and not caught in crossfire, but this article is light on details.

fair enough

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read the article

What's "mandatory 4k"?

It stems from the idea that objectivity in law enforcement is important these days. With the police being proven to be problematic in enforcement, from stop and frisk, to vehicle stops, the point is to move to an objective way to get where we want, which is safer streets, better traffic enforcement, and actually catching murderers and violent people.

The city should put up a network of a few thousand cameras. Minimum. The police already have 500 or so, and those should all be upgraded to MANDATORY 4K, while also adding to the network. This would enable real time tracking of suspects and much better intelligence for the cops to solve murders. Think about it, a few thousand shooters are simply walking about, free to roam. Murderers some, hyper violent all. Give the tools to prosecute more effectively, and redirect police to crime solving and simple patrol and responding to 911 calls by expanding the detective unit.

Civil liberties can be preserved by having a MANDATORY obligation to delete any footage not involved in a crime after a set period, like three weeks or so. Have a civil commission in charge of the release and use of the footage, with regular citizens on the board. Only be able to use the footage in specific crimes-violent ones.

At 10 thou a camera(and that's a lot), 20 million dollars rolls out two thousand cameras, all super high def for zooming etc. add in 5 million a year for enterprise cloud storage(leveraged by the bully pulpit and the city's franchise powers), and viola. we spent 150 million in the last budget for violence prevention, which indeterminate results.

Once you start actually locking murderers and shooters up em masse, the violent crimes will go down. It's not a huge swath of people who commit such crimes, it's a few thousands out of 1.6 million. Eventually you lock all the degenerates up and others will get the idea to not fuck around.

I'm not saying this idea is Christ come again, but it's a very simple idea and largely irrefutable. The fact is we are entering a new era of policing and we must find new ways to solve violent crime and enforce the law.

At the same time we can do violence prevention, jobs programs and jail reforms to help ex cons gain a true foothold after they leave a long sentence, while also reducing the amount of people going in for petty drug crimes etc. of course we need to look at the economic reasons as well, and focus on bettering our educational systems and creating opportunities for people to succeed at the same time as MANDATORY 4K. But MANDATORY 4K is about now.

I did and it's not clear, it just says "The rideshare driver told police that the gunman was driving by them in another vehicle when they opened fire."

Vine and Broad.

Was this a road-rage incident?

The reason I ask is that I go down Broad and cross Vine a few times a week as pedestrian and MORE TIMES THAN NOT, there's some kind of near-accident or incident at that intersection.

Basically, many cars going Eastbound on Vine and turning North onto Broad seem to think it's OK to do so from the MIDDLE LANE across the path of other cars which may be continuing on Vine. This happens every. single. time.

>Once you start actually locking murderers and shooters up em masse, the violent crimes will go down. It's not a huge swath of people who commit such crimes, it's a few thousands out of 1.6 million

It's understandable that folks would think that, but crime has been around a LONG TIME and NO ONE has actually figured out how to solve it. It is NOT "simple". There is nothing simple about dealing with crime.

In particular, the "focus on violent offenders" idea has been tried ad nauseum, over and over again in the US and internationally. It never worked. Why? Because for every violent offender you take off the street, there's another one will take their place and "graduate" into violent crime after YEARS of having practiced petty nuisance crimes that never merited attention because everyone is so focused on thug vs thug murdering. And you know what? Locking people up doesn't deter others from whatever is attracting them to commit crimes. The people who do these things DO NOT think like you do.

Violent crime and specifically murders went down almost every year starting in 1994:

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/murder-homicide-rate

It might have had something to do with this:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-congress/house-bill/3355/text

You can use both Uber & Septa.

Both are safe.

Well, I guess it's all solved and we have nothing to worry about then?

Sorry, but I remember that bill, it was yet another attempt at "getting tough on crime". I suppose it may have helped some crimes in some places, but really, by the time someone is "caught" and charged with federal crimes, it's too late. They've already done incalculable damage to the fabric of civilized society with all the crimes for which they've NOT been caught nor charged for.

The fact is crime goes up and down. Law enforcement and the courts can only do so much.

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“According to state police, a 20-year-old woman from Philadelphia was in the rear passenger side of a Lyft, a white Hyundai Sonata, that was traveling eastbound on the Schuylkill Expressway (I-76) near the I-676 merge just after midnight Saturday.

At that time, police say a black Nissan Altima attempted to merge in an "unsafe manner" onto the Vine Street Expressway.

"The operator of the Nissan then engaged in a road rage incident," state police say.”

Ubers aren’t safe because of one road rage incident? Please.

“According to state police, a 20-year-old woman from Philadelphia was in the rear passenger side of a Lyft, a white Hyundai Sonata, that was traveling eastbound on the Schuylkill Expressway (I-76) near the I-676 merge just after midnight Saturday.

At that time, police say a black Nissan Altima attempted to merge in an "unsafe manner" onto the Vine Street Expressway.

"The operator of the Nissan then engaged in a road rage incident," state police say.”

Suspect was driving a Nissan Altima

......go figure