acutelychronicpanic t1_j76vt5v wrote on February 4, 2023 at 3:17 PM

Reply to comment by contractualist in There Are No Natural Rights (without Natural Law): Addressing what rights are, how we create rights, and where rights come from by contractualist

The social contract is an after-the-fact justification rather than the basis for society.

bumharmony t1_j77dsbo wrote on February 4, 2023 at 5:20 PM

The only system that is coherent is then free grabbing of everything. That is the only real ex ante view to how societies necessarily begin.

But still one gets eventually shot for doing that?

How you make a theory of justice in this question begging framework of having legal right to ”protective violence” and gatekeeping all of the resources?

VitriolicViolet t1_j78yrhz wrote on February 5, 2023 at 12:06 AM

>How you make a theory of justice in this question begging framework of having legal right to ”protective violence” and gatekeeping all of the resources?

'liberalism' in a nutshell.

bumharmony t1_j7alals wrote on February 5, 2023 at 10:12 AM

Also statism in general.

Classical liberalism at least theorizes from a prestate scenario. Unlike statist theories. Maybe you just don't understand the concept.