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CortezsCoffers t1_j894sfy wrote

Oh, I misread you. Often meaning and purpose are used as synonymous terms. I assumed that's how you were using them, so when you went on for a few paragraphs about how nothing has objective purpose I assumed you also believed that everything is meaningless.

Still, I don't think you've actually presented a good argument for suffering being objectively bad. "Pinch yourself," you say. Well, I did pinch myself. Many times, willingly, even knowing it would hurt, though not to an unreasonable degree. What exactly is that supposed to prove? Is an aversion to something a sign that the something is intrinsically bad according to you?

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EarnestPhilosophy OP t1_j89pfwg wrote

Do you think there would be anything of value going on if no one had the ability to feel? Do you think that escaping from danger without feeling anything isn't fundamentally different from being filled with fear during it? What would good and bad even mean if they weren't inextricably tied to pain and pleasure? If feelings didn't and couldn't exist, everything would truly be meaningless. It wouldn't matter at all what you choose to do or what is happening in the world.

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