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derstarkerewille OP t1_jcwom6h wrote

It is interesting to see how difficult it can be for people to see outside the framework of science, when they have spent much of their life living with that perspective. To call the title excessive, you have to see the point being made first.

We should always remember that science is supposed to help understand the world, but the world isn't limited to science. In other words, social aspects of our lives are just as important as learning anything else. Just because they are difficult to study through the framework of science, doesn't mean they are not important or worse - that they are inferior in any way. If anything, they are more important than the material sciences because it involves the interpreter i.e. the scientist and it is far more difficult to study. That being said, I agree with you that the social sciences are poor overall currently. But that's not because the field is poor, but those who are leading it are terrible at it - like what you have mentioned yourself.

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Bowgentle t1_jcx2x50 wrote

>We should always remember that science is supposed to help understand the world, but the world isn't limited to science. In other words, social aspects of our lives are just as important as learning anything else.

I wouldn't disagree - "the proper study of man is man" is something that seems truer to me as time goes by. Unfortunately, it is also the study most plagued by preconceived notions, and the prevalence of those in the social sciences is what makes me question whether they yet deserve to be called 'sciences' at all. Still, it's something to aspire to...

I suppose I'm tilting at windmills to object to the author using "science" when they evidently mean "the rationalist assumptions of the social sciences", much as I object to claims of a "replication crisis in science" when, again, the data applies to the social sciences.

But then, I evidently have time to tilt at windmills, otherwise I wouldn't be on reddit.

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