Submitted by BernardJOrtcutt t3_123nqpx in philosophy
Curious_Disaster5494 t1_je5052v wrote
Moderator Said to post this here.
The origin of Being
I believe there is a point (a nothingness) before and after time, where there is ignorance. (A day when there was no yesterday or there will be no tomorrow.) This nothingness was before everything, is during everything, and will still be after everything. Everything has emerged from this nothingness, and everything will reunite in it. Religions assume that this creation happened intentionally, initiated by a God or a deity. However, this assumes that there was already "something" in existence at the time "everything" was created. I would argue that there is a (time) point before there was anything. Not our galaxy, not our universe, no Big Bang, none of the other universes, no God or deity. The "nothing" before the "being". So, how did "being" come into existence? Religions claim that a deity was always there - infinite. Now who or what is a "deity"? Does it have or is it consciousness? To create something, one must also be conscious of something. Therefore, God has or is consciousness. So, what is consciousness? Humans, animals, plants, and who knows what else possess it. My definition is: consciousness is the ability to gather and process information. This is the basic principle of every consciousness. By information, I mean "everything." Every atom consists of information that consists of further information. Information is infinite and has no beginning. But how did the information in the "nothingness" become something (e.g., consciousness)? There are several differences and few similarities between being and non-being. I will list only a few of them here. One similarity between the two is information. Of everything that does not exist, information has existed forever. The first difference between being and non-being that most likely comes to mind is time. Everything that does not exist only does not exist yet or no longer exists. Time or spacetime is a state in which 3-dimensional beings are located to be able to exist. To put it "simply," it is the "glue" that holds our 3-dimensional reality together. A substance in which 3-Dimensional beings exist like a fish in water. There is another difference between being and non-being. Everything that exists has an intention, a reason. Everything that is, is what it is because it is as it is. Non-being is pure information. Being is information that has an intention. Whoever creates something gives the information in the "nothingness" an intention.
Information/Time + Intention = Being
Therefore, the first consciousness must have emerged from an intention since there was only information before that.
But how could something arise from "nothingness"?
I’m not done with the discussion essay yet but I would like to hear what you think about that so far ?
AdditionFeisty4854 t1_jea49bc wrote
what are you bro!!!
I am enlightened by your words and had this belief since long.. It seems to me I myself is messaging your philosophy as mine.
Thank you.
I am greatly impressed that you told nothing is before time and also after it.
It also seems this nothing you tell is but the synonym of everything
Each and every object, pieces in this 4D cage (universe) we dwell is but a complex illusion of nothing. We conscious being (as you told) moving with time and intention perceive this nothingness as everything.
Now why, that I told nothing is everything ?
For this, we have to find what is truth of existence, the absolute truth
In my views, truth is about change.
Truth of existence for me is two - destruction, leading to creation and again ; with everything in between
>Also, please say some more about how everything comes from nothingness..
I would like to read your statements more
Curious_Disaster5494 t1_jeerj7t wrote
Thanks a lot!! Your comment made my day !! I’m happy to see someone actually read all this lol. About the nothingness: I believe there must be a startpoint to existence. (Existence of being, not us humans or our solar system etc). My thought was, what was there before that particular starting point. Before existence existed at all. Therefore we have to specify what existence is in the first place. Like I said I believe existence is information, put in time + an intention. Nothing can exist without these 3 (at least how we perceive existence). it may be possible to exist without time, but I think it’s impossible to exist without being/having information and having an intention. Now, intention can come and go, but information is always there and always have been. I believe there was a point in „time“ where not even information was there and that would be the „nothingness“. Means, everything emerged from this „nothingness“ and it still surrounds and it’s still included in everything there is until now since the information (which is everything) was born out of it. I hope this specifies my thoughts a little bit more.
AdditionFeisty4854 t1_jef2vlk wrote
TBH, I was waiting for your comment to appear in the notifications lol..
So by your explanations, I understood the following statement -
>A being (living or non living) in existence is determined as the information it carries (which shall be absolutely certain and shall not be 0) per time influenced withholding it's intention added
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>Intention does not matter always
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>Non living beings constitute pure information whereas living beings constitute information with intention (which develops due to acquired consciousness)
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>Now if time is 0, there is nothingness, as (x/0 = can't be defined)
If that is the point then intentions are futile
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>(you have added more words, but this are the fundamentals)
Now, this nothingness you described, in my terms, shall be called something less than 0 Dimension and obviously, above it.
0D is described as a singular point, having infinite information. Information is all it carries as a property, After it, new property comes which is Length (1D), then Breadth (2D), then Hight (3D), then Time (4D)
Note all property is but an infinite set of its predecessor property... Infinite group of lines (having length as property) form a plan (having breadth as property) Et cetera..
Now, as you judged (don't know if you judged), there should be some property whose infinite set constitute that property of 0D, having information
That's why I told nothing is everything
Curious_Disaster5494 t1_jef8ka0 wrote
That’s exactly what I was thinking. You said it better than me tho.
I think I need to add that Intention just matters to beings in existence. Beings that don’t exist (yet or anymore) [eg. like thoughts someone will have in the future] don’t have any intention. They’re pure information.
And yes just like you said: nothing is everything or is in everything to be specific. I don’t know I it’s judgement but I deeply believe there must be some starting point to the existence of being, and if there’s a starting point there must be something less then 0 too like you said.
It’s nice talking to you about that topic, I’ve had it in my head for a couple years and never knew if anyone would understand what I’m trying to say.
AdditionFeisty4854 t1_jeffwf1 wrote
Respect you, brother, that you led your thoughts scripted here and I got a fate to see. May you think greater and be greater.
See you in another crusade as an intentional being's journey, or what we called life.
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