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Jerusalemcrossroads t1_irtvv2k wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Bruno Latour Tracks Down Gaia: "Such a world has nothing to do with ecology, but quite simply with a politics of living things". An essay by Latour in which he discusses the work of the Gaia theorist James Lovelock. Bruno Latour (1947-2022) was a French philosopher and sociologist of science. by amondyyl

The "talking stick" bit...

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SwampR t1_irtz7j7 wrote

Yeah… idk what that means but that’s not an argument, as far as I can tell. That’s just name calling.

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Jerusalemcrossroads t1_iru38ji wrote

He and his followers enjoyed chaos using a "talking stick" format. "The more disagreements," one member of Latour's discussion group once told me, "the better" [i.e. complexity is superior to simplicity, Plato over Aristotle, etc. et. all]…

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SwampR t1_iru3lc1 wrote

You don’t like the format of his discussion group because you found it to be chaotic? Okay.

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Jerusalemcrossroads t1_iru3ypj wrote

Order is a Western concept. Chaos is not; it is Oriental. That's basic Aristotelian metaphysics, not my personal opinion... ;)

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SwampR t1_iru52pw wrote

Lmao, wtf?

Idk if you are trying to say that the idea that chaos is “oriental” is basic Aristotelian metaphysics. Or if you are saying that chaos is bad because it’s not “western,” and I’d know that if only I’d read Aristotle? But either way, I’m just gonna go ahead and not bother with this convo anymore.

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Jerusalemcrossroads t1_iru6usa wrote

"Only love // can make it rain // like when the beach // is kissed by the sea"... ;)

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