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RoddyDost t1_is2u2zj wrote

I love how /r/philosophy is just filled with posts like this where some guy you’ve never heard of is “challenging” something, or proposes some idea that’s been discussed ad nauseum for literally thousands of years. This is why I stopped at my masters after deep dives into ethics and phenomenology—philosophy is amazing, but it is no longer a productive field of study, despite the delusions of academics that it is.

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jdawgeleven11 t1_is2wonb wrote

It reminds of this detail from a Neal Stephenson book I read called Anathem (the book is... fine). Ignoring the merits of the book as a whole, there is one funny detail that I think would be useful. In this world, there is an ancient order of logicians and mathematicians, each members of various sects with various roles to play in the continuity of society. The task of one of the sects was to analyze all new works and point out where the author thought they had an original idea only to be shown that it had been written about thousands of years prior. Does seem to be where we find ourselves often these days.

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srpollo18 t1_is33667 wrote

I use phenomenology as the core of my therapeutic practice. I get to study Heidegger with a group of therapists who present cases using Heideggarian (existential/phenomenology) and psychoanalytic relational models.

This shit becomes alive when using it in practice and watching clients use key themes to integrate and move towards health. It’s pretty damn cool.

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Getjac t1_is341t1 wrote

Dude, that is extremely my shit. I just got a bachelor's in psychology and philosophy and have been debating where exactly I want to go from here. I'm leaning towards therapy but I don't really love a lot of the more modern cbt-esque forms of it. My favorite class throughout college was without a doubt phenomenology, I feel like I've really integrated that perspective into my own thinking.

I'd love to hear whatever you have to say about your work; how you got into it, how you're applying the view in your cases, any advice you'd have for someone moving into their masters. I've debated trying to get into a program for Jungian/Depth psychology but the work you're doing sounds exciting.

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RoddyDost t1_is57z5b wrote

That’s incredible, any resources that you know of that discuss the topic?

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Sitrondrommen t1_is4u8nw wrote

You got into a masters and never heard of Latour?

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RoddyDost t1_is57mez wrote

For the last two years of my study I was reading primarily Heidegger, Husserl and Merleau-Ponty, and before that I was into social and political ethics. So no, I’ve never heard of him.

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Sitrondrommen t1_is598cx wrote

Still, if you haven't passively heard of Latour by the time you got to your masters and then is prepared to say that he is a nobody which should not contend with what has already been discussed a thousand years ago, I feel that you don't really have the credentials to claim whether or not he is a serious contender, or what it is that has already been discussed in philsophy for a thousands years. Latour is very much a part of an important discussion in philosophy. Just look at his contributions to the philosophy of science for one.

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noactuallyitspoptart t1_is4p3nm wrote

Letting /r/philosophy and in particular Graham Harman stand in for the field is egregiously unwise

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RoddyDost t1_is57qcg wrote

I’m not letting /r/philosophy stand in for the field…more like letting it reinforce beliefs that I already held due to other reasons.

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noactuallyitspoptart t1_is5bs0w wrote

I would simply not let anything Graham Harman says reinforce any beliefs you have about the wider field

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