CloudiusWhite t1_is7cn2b wrote
Reply to comment by FaeTaleDream in Ethics of Nuclear Energy in Times of Climate Change: Escaping the Collective Action Problem by CartesianClosedCat
> And the whole point is if it does go wrong now you've just doomed how many hundreds of miles to a nuclear wasteland.
Chernobyl didnt result in this except for short term. People literally tour all but the very worst of remaining hotspots. The fact is all the problems and disasters we have had happen in history have been the result of human failure to remain vigilant. Back in the day, we could somewhat forgive this because we didnt know what we do now, but today we should be far more strict in nuclear plant operations and not have things like that even occur. Its called stop trying to push the boundaries with the production model and take the testing to the lab where it belongs.
Nuclear is also going to be key for our future development off world, to sit there and pretend otherwise is foolish. I won't even regard the argument of fusion because it isnt possible yet, and until it is its no more real than Jesus coming back and just snapping his fingers and giving everyone magical powered batteries. and even then fusion research will only increase as nuclear fission tech is researched.
Living in fear of some possibility is the same as never going outside because that sunlight could be the little bit which creates cancer in you and kills you.
FaeTaleDream t1_is7g0ab wrote
The city is unlivable.....
You people can not be comparing the sun to possible radiation contamination.
CloudiusWhite t1_is7h8z5 wrote
Stalkers literally live there and people have lived in the exclusion zone since the 90s and are alive and old as fuck. I know three such people who before the war lived there more often than outside of the zone personally, two of them were going to take me exploring there when I did my trip across the pond.
FaeTaleDream t1_is7i0iw wrote
And people can live on top an active volcano, that doesn't make it livable for a nation.
CloudiusWhite t1_is7lgzf wrote
The thousands or possibly millions of people living on islands across the planet with active volcanos being what formed them would disagree, but okay.
VitriolicViolet t1_is871yt wrote
dont bother, most people hear nuclear and think of the simpsons or the intentionally misleading propaganda show, Chernobyl.
what i find funny is nuclear is the lowest profit option of all power generation, taking 10+ years for ROI (even if you build them in 6 years its takes a decade to make money) and somehow it is the 'evil' form of power generation.
its almost like renewables were chosen, not because they were better, because they are just as profitable as fossil fuels (if we went 100% nuclear the energy industry would lose more then half its profits)
VitriolicViolet t1_is86i5i wrote
some people have done enough chemistry and physics to know how radiation works and thus do not fear it.
Coal has killed more people via radiation than all nuclear technologies and accidents combined.
once waste hits 100+ years old its comparable to getting an x-ray ffs.
anti-nuclear activists have harmed the environment as much as fossil fuels lobbyists have, hell they teamed up in the 90s to kill nuclear.
FaeTaleDream t1_is8qnrs wrote
Bad faith argument ignoring reality.
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