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bogmire t1_itqvdg7 wrote

Reply to comment by FeDeWould-be in The philosophy of Martin Heidegger who argued that the Technological mindset has destroyed our relationship to the world so that Nature is seen as so many resources to exploit. He presents an alternative: a poetic relationship to the world by thelivingphilosophy

I find it interesting that people are so quick to correlate capitalism with any form of thinking based on maximizing utility, all economic systems do this to varying degrees of efficiency. A communist system would not build aircraft for any reason other than to move things. I understand that the discussion here is about paradigms of thought and certainly the capitalist mindset does encourage this sort of thinking, but it is present in any large scale human organizational structure to some degree, and more telling of our state of industrial/technological civilization, rather than a direct relationship to economic systems, if the two can be separated.

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Dodaddydont t1_its3roa wrote

Just as a side story, I once saw someone say that Uber was terrible and exploitative and wouldn't exist under socialism. So I asked if any form of taxis would exist under socialism. They said: of course not! I asked why that would be, and they said: well because there would be no cars of course!

So anyways, according to that guy, I'm guessing there wouldn't be any airplanes under socialism as well, lol

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coke_and_coffee t1_itrcl48 wrote

This subreddit is really really really anti-capitalist. If you push back even the slightest on any kind of critique related to capitalism here you will get swamped with downvotes.

I would argue that this kind of anti-capitalist mentality is the root of many deranged philosophies.

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VitriolicViolet t1_itsh6mz wrote

most critiques either use strawmen (most people cant define terms like capitalism or communism) or end up asking for an entire dissertation on an alternative system.

i would argue the blind devotion to capitalism most people show is it self deranged.

and i say that as someone who doesnt like any system (nothing we have invented is fit for purpose, we need a new ideology not rehashed 200+ year old ones).

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coke_and_coffee t1_itsojrn wrote

> i would argue the blind devotion to capitalism most people show is it self deranged.

I’m talking about the world of philosophy though. Yeah, most laymen have a pretty poor understanding of capitalism and simply support it blindly, but people who study philosophy should know better than to be so rabidly anti-capitalist/anti-liberal.

I think a lot of people get very frustrated at those of us who defend liberalism because it’s just so easy to imagine a world that is better than the one we inhabit. And they’re frustrated that we seem to be “blocking” them from making that fantasy a reality. But the more wizened among us should know to urge great caution in pursuing these fantasies.

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iiioiia t1_itt4s8f wrote

Do you think the level of broad discussion of "utopian" ideas/goals/etc is too little, too much, or just about right?

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