platoprime t1_itvhdke wrote
Reply to comment by WhatsThatNoize in Logical positivism does not dispense with metaphysics, as it aimed to. It merely proposes a different kind of metaphysics, in which natural sciences take the privileged position once occupied by rationalist metaphysics. by IAI_Admin
The physical universe itself changes length, position, casual order of events, and the rate of the passage of time depending on your frame of reference. Subjective truths are still true.
WhatsThatNoize t1_itvhz3n wrote
Variations over time aren't "subjective truth", what even are you saying, my dude?
platoprime t1_itvi6rc wrote
I'm not talking about "variations over time". I'm talking about getting two different measurements depending on your frame of reference.
>what even are you saying, my dude?
I'm saying you should probably learn the conceptual basics of special relativity.
WhatsThatNoize t1_itvkhq6 wrote
Variations of location, time, and relative velocity are immaterial to objective reality. They're not "subjective truths", they're second-order measurements.
I'm well aware of special relativity Mr. 200 IQ.
platoprime t1_itvkzfi wrote
>I'm well aware of special relativity
I'm not the one calling differences caused by separate frames of reference "variations over time"
>Variations of location, time, and relative velocity are immaterial to objective reality.
If differences in frames of reference weren't material to objective reality they would be unnecessary to describe objective reality. As you are no doubt aware General Relativity is necessary to correctly describe reality.
WhatsThatNoize t1_itvwojf wrote
No, you're just attributing a meaningless distinction to an important one.
> If differences in frames of reference weren't material to objective reality they would be unnecessary to describe objective reality.
You're entirely forgetting that you're talking about a mathematical MODEL of reality.
platoprime t1_itvwykd wrote
>You're entirely forgetting that you're talking about a mathematical MODEL of reality.
You're entirely forgetting Relativity has been experimentally confirmed.
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